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    Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 18:27
He was born in Lebanon but he's Canadian of mixed ascent. Actually his father is of mixed ascendance (Chinese, Hawaian, Irish, Portuguese) while his mother is standard British. So at most he has 1/4 non-Caucasoid. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 21:21
Originally posted by OSMANLI

Ilhan Mansiz- Turkish footballer, he is also in the image of the Turkish football team that you depicted. He looks like a pure Turkic person. Nose, eyes, face shape, hair all are give aways.

Serdar Ortac- Turkish popstar. If you were to insist that he was mixed one would think he had a Mongolian mix rather than a 'Greek' mix

You said the during the Ottoman empire all Muslims were called Turk, well actually the Turks themselves did not really call themselves Turks rather they called themselves Ottomans.

Turks were often called 'Ottomanos' and the Greeks as 'Romanos' by the Greeks. Maybe that means that the Greeks are infact originating from Rome




I wonder why you could only give the example of Ilhan mansiz. Is he the only turkic person out of 11 football players? 1 out of 11?  This only proves that turks make of %9 of the turkey's population. That %9 is so mixed so they cant be called turks genetically either.

You only showing exceptionals = supports our theory=ethnics  turks= minority


Anyway 85 years ago people of Anatolia never called themselves turks.

85 years ago turkish speaking people in Anatolia were actually a minority. Ataturk turkified them by introducing turkish language because ataturk thought that sumerians,hitties,and all the people of anatolia were actually turks. 

This a very funny idea of course.

He therefore made the anatolians speak turkish thinking that hitties, phrgians were all turks.

85 years ago, people of anatolia weren't even speaking turkish.

What are talking about thinking that anatolia is made up of turkic people. You are a joker.

Ottoman language was made of arabic and persian.

Ottoman never liked turks, turks never were in the administration of ottoman empire either. Ottomans even killed them. Ottoman was not turkic either.

85 years ago there was no such thing as 'turk milleti' (turkish nation).
This name was given to muslims in the anatolia 85 years ago only. Before that nobody called turk not did they speak turkish.

Anatolia is not turk.

Anyway people after the conquering of anatolia there has not been any emigrations. There is not one single evidence that there were waves of emigration. As I said before  this is a bigg lieee.
Plus if there was really big emigrations why dont the east of turkey (kurdistan) have more turkic population if you came from central asia? Actually east of turkey has very little turkic population suggesting that turks are a minority. The main so called turkish population is actully on the west of turkey. It is very contradictry to the central asia theory(lie).

85 years ago people were divided on religious bases, not ethnic groups.

Orhun inscriptions were translated in 1890. There was not such thing as turk nation. But there was a name given to bizantines by europeans= turc

Turk: c.1300, from French. Turc, from Medival Latin Turcus, from Byzantine Greek. Tourkos

The country name Turkey (c.1369) is from Mediaval Latin Turchia.

Main Entry: Turco-
Variant(s): or Turko- /'t&r-(")kO/
Function: combining form
Etymology: Turco- from Medieval Latin Turcus Turk; Turko- from Turkish
1 : Turkic : Turkish : Turk <Turcophil>
2 : Turkish and <Turco-Greek>

In greeks tourko means muslim in a sense too.

Greeks, romaioios, bulgarians, armenians, assyrians etc who converted to islam actually call themselves turk. This proves that anatolia is not turkic alone.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 22:56
i think u are crazy..
ottoman was not turk? Really interesting . politic and nationalist idea!!
dont forget all events are repeating
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 23:41
Leopard, proof? sources?
all i read is dribble


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 23:48
That %9 ruled you for 400 hundred years let alone quite a few other lands for centuries.And they own the Anatolia for more than 1000 years.Keep on whinning leopard 

This thread should be moved to amusment forum
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 23:52
jokes aside, I think you should post your ideas in http://www.stormfront.org/ I'm sure you will find people who's interested


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 01:17
Originally posted by erci

That %9 ruled you for 400 hundred years let alone quite a few other lands for centuries.And they own the Anatolia for more than 1000 years.Keep on whinning leopard 

This thread should be moved to amusment forum


You are pathetic thinking that anatolia is turkish. I feel sorry for you really. You are not genetically turkic but speaking turkic and thinking that you are turkic. What a tragedy.


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Originally posted by erci

That %9 ruled you for 400 hundred years let alone quite a few other lands for centuries.And they own the Anatolia for more than 1000 years.Keep on whinning leopard 

This thread should be moved to amusment forum


There is nothing about Ottoman that is turkic.
They didn't speak turkish. ottoman language was made of arabic and persian. How interesting that the so called ottoman turks didn't even speak turkish. Why? They are not turkic thats why. The selcuks in anatolia didnt speak turkish either, they spoke persian.

I want to know who was a turkish sultan in ottoman empire? Please give names, parents' detail and ethnic details.




This is the place where the Ottoman started. The selcuk turks never ever reached bilecik anyway in 1300. They were some turks in the east of turkey at that time.
Turks are a minority because If turks really came from central asia the east of turkey should have higher turkic population, but the so called turkic population is in the west of turkey. Very very interesting. They must have flied from central asia to west of turkey without passing through east.

You the so called turks are actually the old people of anatolia. Most of you are romaioi.

You didn't answer my questions in my earlier post above too. I am waiting sensible answers.


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I have a few name for you, well detailed.

Prof.Dr.Grigoris Vassiliades

Dr. Markos Rigos
Dr. Koriki Aliki


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 01:46
You people are losers. Unable to answer any questions.

Trust me you are not turkic genetically, You are probably romaioi.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 05:10

Originally posted by Leopard

This is the place where the Ottoman started. The selcuk turks never ever reached bilecik anyway in 1300. They were some turks in the east of turkey at that time.

Well usually I do not reply childs in this forum but it seems like you need to improve your knowledge of history. And I have decided to help you in that context.

1) You are saying that Seljuk Turks never ever reached Bilecik in 1300, the place where Ottoman Empire has been started to flourish.

I did not understand what your intention is. Do you claim that Osman Gazi and his people were in fact Romanoi? So how did they started to talk in Turkish?

Anyway. I do not know what do you know about 1. Crusades but I want to remind you a few thing about the subject.

By clicking the link below (left click of your mouse (the small thing that you touch with your hand while using your computer)) you can reach first hand sources about the I. Crusades.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/cde-nicea.html

What is it written there? (you have to click to read it of course).

"The Siege and Capture of Nicea 1.097".

You will learn from this source that Nicea was the capital of Anatolian Seljuk State.

But you must learn where Nicea is. Nicea is on the northwest of Bilecik, near Marmara Sea. It is between Yalova and Bilecik. Now the city is called Iznik.

 Do you see Iznik? (Upper side is north)

You can also read about some troops called as Turcopoles fighting with Christians against Turks. Do you know who were they? They were Christian Turks mainly from Pecheneg and Cuman tribes. They took the Nicea from Turks.

Now may be you can see that your claims were wrong.

Instead of writing nonsense messages with full of hatered about Turks, it is time to read and learn something about history. All Empires will serve you in this matter.

Good luck.



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Here is the football players of Turkey, Greece and Bulgaria. They look very similar.






 





ha ha
very scientifc way


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2005 at 10:40
Originally posted by Alkiviades

Let's see the list:

stanbul; Greek; Constantinopoli, Stanpoli= to the city. Greek
Ayasofya: Greek; Aia-Sofia Greek
skdar: Greek; Skudari non-Greek root -latin root
Bakrky: Greek; Makri Hori (Uzun ky), Greek nopes youre wrong

Edirne: Greek; Adrianopoli, Greek
anakkale: Greek; Dardanos non-Greek root -its Turkish
zmir: Greek; Smyrni, Greek
Antalya: Greek; Atalya, Greek
Manisa: Greek; Magnisia (Means the area of Magnezium) Greek
Mudanya: Latince; Montanya (Means mountainous) non-Greek root
Bursa: Greek; Brusa (Prussa, actually) non-Greek root
zmit: Greek; Nikomidia Greek how is nikomidia related with Izmit?
Sakarya: Greek; Sangario, non-Greek root
Tarsus: Greek; Tarsos Greek
Mersin: Greek; Mirthos,Mirsini Greek
Antakya: Greek; Antiohia Greek
Adana: Greek; Adana Greek
Ordu: Greek; Kotioro I am not sure its Turkish
Trabzon: Greek; Trapezunda (Bendy, In the shape of trapezium) Greek
Rize: Greek; Riza (Means root) Greek
Giresun: Greek; Kerasunda (Cherry garden) Greek
Amasya: Greek; Amatia Greek
Tokat: Greek; Evdoksia (Means great opinion) Greek
Erzurum: Arapa; Arz- Rum non-Greek root
Galata: Greek; Galatas (Means milkman) Greek 
Afyon: Greek-Lat; Opion-Opium (Means marijuana) Afioni, huh? I am not sure about the root... Afyon means kind of drug
Mula: Greek; Mugla Greek
Faroz: Greek; Faros (Fener) Greek
Yoroz: Greek; Giros (Means turning thing) Greek
Bartn; Greek; Parthena (Means virgin) Greek
Balkesir: Greek; Paleokastro (Means old castle) Greek -Nopes its Turkish
Kastamonu: Greek; Kastromoni (Means castle of Kei) Greek
Kayseri: Greek; Kiseriya (Means Kaysers, Kisralars place) non-Greek root
Kean: Greek; Kesani not sure
Enez: Greek; Ainos (Enos), Greek
Assos: Greek; Asos, Greek
Efes: Greek; Efesos, Greek
Ladik: Greek; Laodikya  Greek
Uluda: Greek; (Originate from Olimpos), Greek -Nopes its Turkish
Konya: Greek; konium (Means the city of konas), Greek
Bolu: Greek; Poli (Means city), Greek
Silifke: Greek; Silifkis not sure -its Turkish
Sivas: Greek; Sewastia (Sevasmos: Means respect, respectable city), Greek
Ankara: Greek-Latin; Angyra-Anchyre (Means Anchor) Greek -Nopes its ancient HITIT city -Angorra

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Silifke: Greek; Silifkis not sure -its Turkish

Wasn't it called "Seleucia"?

Erzurum: Arapa; Arz- Rum non-Greek root

Erzurum was called "Karin" by Armenians, and "Theodosiopolis" by Greeks.


 

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Alkiviades has quite an imagination.he derived Canakkale from dardanos, Bakirkoy from makra hori etc etc etc 
"When one hears such music, what can one say, but .... Salieri?"
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The word BakIrky is derived from makrahori. 
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so bakir has the same meaning as the makra in greek? or they sound same to you?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2005 at 21:17
the sound of makriky is so similar to bakirky. (Makiriky - Bakirky)

Yes "bakir-koy" is linguistically turkic but it's just the success of turkicization.

1925' te ulusal sınırlar iindeki yabancı kaynaklı adların değiştirilmesi sırasında, adı Bakırky olarak belirlendi.


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1925' te ulusal sınırlar iindeki yabancı kaynaklı adların değiştirilmesi sırasında, adı Bakırky olarak belirlendi.


it doesn't say what was it derived from.of course it is usual to change it.If I follow your logic I should also believe kadikoy, Hadimkoy, Mecidiyekoy all derived from Greek.
"When one hears such music, what can one say, but .... Salieri?"
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turkicize is one thing change another
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