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    Posted: 16-Oct-2004 at 06:15
...interesting indeed.
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Oct-2004 at 04:36
It is, it was once joined to Madagastar and Austrailia, fossil evidence of dinosaurs is another clue pointing that way.
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  Quote SJI Lasallian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 20:45
Originally posted by snowybeagle

Originally posted by Tobodai

... India should be a continent too.

Actually, the Indian subcontinent is believed to have been a separate land mass which collided with the Asian continent land mass, raising the Himalayas from the bottom of the ocean.

The presence of certain fauna found only in Africa and India also suggested the two land masses were once joined.

I heard about this too...but just isn't sure if it's true.

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 03:38
The presence of certain fauna found only in Africa and India also suggested the two land masses were once joined.


Madagaster IIRC.
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  Quote snowybeagle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 01:24

Originally posted by Tobodai

... India should be a continent too.

Actually, the Indian subcontinent is believed to have been a separate land mass which collided with the Asian continent land mass, raising the Himalayas from the bottom of the ocean.

The presence of certain fauna found only in Africa and India also suggested the two land masses were once joined.

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  Quote Sharrukin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Oct-2004 at 14:26
I found something interesting about the name "Asia".  To the Greeks of Herodotus's time, it was a "woman's name" of unknown origin, although Herodotus does mention that the Lydians claim the name originated among them.  The curious thing about this claim is that in Linear B tablets found at Mycenaean Pylos in the western Peloponnese there is mention of slave-women of different western Anatolian locales including, among others Aswija.  This name matches a western Anatolian country mentioned in Hittite texts known as Assuwa which is placed by some scholars in the later region of Lydia.  When the Romans acquired the Kingdom of Pergamum which included Lydia, they renamed it the province of "Asiana".  If "Asia" comes from "Assuwa", then the Greek name came from a Luwian name, because "assuwa" in Luwian meant, "horse". 
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  Quote Yiannis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Oct-2004 at 08:33

Picture of the 2Euro coin with the abduction of Europe:

 

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Oct-2004 at 15:57
No, the Philopines is its own seperate plate. Just like Arabia, Indo-Australia etc.

Renember, there are many diffinitions of continents
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Oct-2004 at 11:45

Originally posted by Cywr


The Philopines is its own seperate continent too

The Phillipine is not a continent but a collection of islands, which are still connected to the Asian landmass. The same for Taiwan, Malaysia, Indonesia and Japan.



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  Quote Sharrukin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Oct-2004 at 23:57

"Europe", as used by the Greeks is quite old.  We know that Herodotus was using the name in its near-modern sense, by about 430 BC.  In his examination of the world's geography, he described Europe as having an indefinite eastern border and thus was equal in size to Africa (his "Libya") and Asia, combined. (Herodotus, Book 4,45).  His "Asia" bordered Europe at the Black Sea, the Tanais, the Caspian Sea, and the Oxus (Herodotus, Book 4, 37-40).  It is to be noted that even he did not know the origin of the names of the continents, only that they were "women's names". (Herodotus, Book 4,45). 

It was in the Roman period, when the geographies gave a more modern meaning to the idea of Europe.  Sarmatia, known by Ptolemy (c. AD 150) was divided into a "European" and an "Asiatic" section, divided by the Ural Mts. and the Ural River, which is where modern geography places the division. 

 

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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Oct-2004 at 11:57
In Arabic "Qorub" means "Sunset" and "Qarb" means "West".
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Oct-2004 at 07:44
Continents have never been based soley on Culture.
The Philopines is its own seperate continent too, and there is a little one in Iran somewhere, Caspian plate possibly.
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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Oct-2004 at 00:02
Arabia and India should be separate continents as well, to support that plate theory of Cywr's and because of the common decency to allow completely different groups of cultures to have different continents.
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  Quote Abyssmal Fiend Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 20:12

I agree with Cywr. There was never any definite name until later in Human history for any of the continents. Africa wasn't called Africa, it was part of the Caliphate at one part, so it had it's own name then. And it's own name when ruled by the individual tribes. And it's own name for damn near most of it's history. A movie, though I can't be sure how accurate it was, depicted African Slaves on a boat... the name escapes me at this time, but they didn't even have a name for the area in which they lived. They could find it, but they didn't know what to call it.

Much could be said the same to Europeans. Although, I would just assume it was the "Christian Empire" in its simplest forms.


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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 16:17
Theres no single answer, it was once a direction, then a place, then a rough region, then a formalised continent.
So, some semetic speakers (baylonians), then Greeks, then western Europeans in general.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 16:06
and so the conclusion is?
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 14:12
Europe as a continent, like Aisa, as we know them today, didn't exist untill relativly recently, last 300 years or so.
But the names had been used to describe geographical regions, Europe was once thrace, then part of the southern Balkans, and eventualy the whole of the western Eurasian peninsular, Asia, originaly Anatolia, then the near east, and eventualy the rest of Eurasia.
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  Quote fastspawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 11:15
Is europe a modern name e.g. After the medieval time period?

If i do recall the pre-industrial Europeans hardly referred to themselves as Europeans, rather As "the whole of Christendom" or Chrisitian Brethern.
Before Christ, it was even more fractured, and i don't think the Europeans had any common identitly to share.
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  Quote Yiannis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 09:22

Not sure on the "Babylonian" part, but the word is Semitic alright.

The Greek myth names Europe to be from the coast of Phoenicia (Modern day Lebanon).

 

 

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 09:10
Err, Yiannis, so it is or it isn't from Babylonian (or whatever)?
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