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    Posted: 10-Oct-2004 at 17:58

China was not a puppet state. Mao (may he never rest in peace) was conducting his own diplomacy and his own domestic policy.

Japan was already militaristically crippled when Atom bomb was droped. Eisenhower stated the same and opposed the use of the bomb, although he was far from being a humanitarian.

War over Cuba was a direct result of nuclear missles. If soviets were not brining nuclear missles how could there have been a Cuban Nuclear Missle Crisis? By the way, American ships were attacking a Soviet submarine, - some of the crew wanted to fire back, but one of them restrained them. If the sub fired back, there would have been War. Someone in this forum posted an article on this at some earlier date.

That's just alternative history, the WWI theory. People before WWI idealized warfare much more than we do today, so we don't know what would have happened if they had such a WMD.

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wow, do you try to be so consistently wrong on every issue intentionally, or is it just hapenstance?
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Originally posted by Evildoer

Japan was already militaristically crippled when Atom bomb was droped.

But they were still going to resist in a final victory or death struggle that would have killed far more people than the bombs did.  That and the Soviets would have probably invaded Hokkaido, and we all know what happens to places the Red Army visits.



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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Oct-2004 at 20:07
Originally posted by Genghis

[QUOTE=Evildoer]Japan was already militaristically crippled when Atom bomb was droped.[\QUOTE]

But they were still going to resist in a final victory or death struggle that would have killed far more people than the bombs did.  That and the Soviets would have probably invaded Hokkaido, and we all know what happens to places the Red Army visits.

yes indeed, it was war to the last and without the emperors call to surrender many more japanese would have died, not to mention allies.  And even when the emperor tried to surrender there was a palace coup to stop him.  I cant stand all the revisionist historians who wan to ake America somehow the badguy against Japan beause of the bombs.

 

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