The hungarian man - A magyar ember

This is a partial translation  of   A magyar ember (A magyars�g embertan�r�l) (The hungarian man ) by Kiszely Istv�n.

The original post can be found at:
http://forum.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=7731

The Hungarian people have 3 points of origin: 1. The people prior to the 894-895 AD conquering Magyar tribes such as Scythians, Sarmatians, Huns and Avars. 2. The main component the honfoglal�s Magyars who numbered 500,000 enlarged by turkic people . 3. The J�sz, Pechenegs,Kumans, turkic Bulgars, Saxons, Slovaks, Swabians, Serbians.

..In Hungary the first authentic graves of 895-1000 AD Magyars were found...



(An artist's reconstruction and skull of a Honfoglal�s Magyar man)

..In 1834 in Kecskem�t 700 "authentic" Sarmatian skeletons were unearthed...

..The Honfoglal�s Magyar men were on average 1.69m tall, the women were 1.58m. The average age of mortality for adults was 34 years. 60% of the skeletons were found to be under 16 years old..

The Hungarians are noted for the unique phenomenon of "Eastern vitalization" because the Hungarians are partly of the Kuman,turkic Bulgar, J�sz, Pecheneg origin and this eastern people supplied a population surge. The Hungarians' representitive subracial types of the Honfoglal�s past and even today are the following:

1. Tur�ni or turanid type. (Men 165-167 cm, women small & a little squattish. The broad cheek, the zygomatics protruding, the nose bridge flat, the eye socket small, the eyes a little wide spaced with a slanted look, the eyes blackish. Of the young children occurs "mongoloid fold." The mouth is small, the head is brachycephalic. The occiput weakly raised. Hair strands are thick, coarse, flat and hair is full. The hair is blackish-dark brown in color. The type is aboriginal to Eastern Turkistan (The heart of Asia). The type belongs to the West of the Carpathian Basin (North and South) not from elsewhere. Anthropologist Lajos Bartucz determined the occurance place of the later Magyar version of this type, the Alf�ldi (Homo pannonicus) is called the "Turkic Hungarian type." The occurance of this type nationally is 30-35%. Anthropologist Lajos Bartucz wrote: "the Alf�ldi type you can say most correctly is the "Magyar type", since its frequency is the most numerous and is exactly the same type going back to the Honfoglal�s."



Turanid type Hungarian girl



Hungarian woman belonging to the Alf�ldi type

2. Pamiri (pamiro-ferghana, Central Asian, a fluid type or Anatolian) type found in Pamir country, Tien-san, the Altai, Central Asia together with the Iranic lands. The racial type belongs to Kazakh inner-Asiatic and among the population of Carpathian Basin the origin is with Huns, Avars and partially with �rp�d's Magyars. The Hungarians of the Alf�ld (Plains) are typically of this type, so-called "scraggy-faced peasants." Of the Carpathian Basin residents 10-15% are towards this type. The stature is larger than the previous type, the men are 170cm and over. The build is usually thin and lanky, the head relatively small. The occiput is usually flat, the face long, the nose projects considerably from the face as a rule is straight. The zygomatics are robustly built, the complexion color is dark. The hair is greasy, rough to the touch, individual strands are thin and abundant.

3. Taurid ("Caucausian") type originates partially from the Turk, partially the Scythian, Samartian- and J�sz people; the Magyars and Huns from then on the Avar royals and via the early Honfoglal�s Magyars 5-8% frequency is found, but among the Lesser Kumanians and around the Baja area 14% is present. The type is originated from Near Asia, the Caucasus, the old Mesopotamia and Persia, also the Iranic world. The porportions of the body are medium, the men's average height is 160-166 cm, but also substantially taller. The head is bracycephalic and large, the forehead of middle width, the occiput small and to a degree flat, the face of medium length, the zyomatics laterally a little protruding, downwards narrower, the nose is of medim thickness, large, convex and projects from the face strongly. The nasal root and nose bridge of medium width, the nasal tip is mostly curved, the eyes are small relatively, the large sized ears frequently protruding. The eye and hair color is dark brown - black, the skin swarthy brown, the hair strands are coarse, straight, notched, or a little crispy, the bodyhair strongly developed, the beard and the eyebrows abundant.

4. East Baltic or East European type is thereof Eastern European aboriginal origin, which the old Magyars, the Hungarians, then the Bulgars, the Kumanians and the J�sz also brought. While it is not typical of the ancient Hungarians, the Ledvedian and legendary home territory the people of the folks, it originated by either through truly mixing or was original to the Magyar folk. Gyula Benczur portrayed the type "of the Magyars" and said these professionally inaccurate cliches: "neither blond, nor brown, the pale, dull-skinned Hungarian racial type." For that reason the "blunt" East-Baltic element was strongly mixed from the East. The build is squattish ("compact"), the men's average height historically was 163-165 cm, though often taller. The head of medium length, the face of medium width, oily but not homely laterally protruding zygomatics. The eyes on the face look small, but the eyesockets are comparatively in the large range. The skin complexion is transparent; the eyes greyish-blue ("water-colored"), the hair ash-blond,among children white-blond, the hair is notched stiff, coarse strands. The face in old age becomes wrinkled. Occurances of 8-10% are defined, but in Pal�cf�ld due to the Slavs' apparent mixture with them they have attained the 35% frequency. The East Baltic is a specific type or a variation of the Pontic type.




An East Baltic type Hungarian girl



Gyula Benczur portrays the East Baltic as typical "Hungarian man"

5. Uralic or Ugor type representative of the Finno-Ugrian people; the ancient origin is the area between the Ural and the Sayan mountians. As Hungarian primary sources occuring only of the 10th Century may substantiate, frequency anciently and now is 0,6%, which is endorsement that the Magyars likely via Finno-Ugrian culture formed territories, but ethnically not playing a part, and were formed by the native population; the search for the ancient Magyar homeland between the Finno-Ugrian folk is unscientific. Of the Hungarians there is a seldom frequency of "mongoloid" elements in attendance of the representative type.

The types above were "brought from the east" and the Carpathian Basin carries types found absolutely "throughout Europe": racially the cromagnonid, the Mediterranean, the Nordic, the Alpine, the Borreby, etc. types are all represented.

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Dr. Kiszely Istv�n,the author  quoted above,is not just any scientist,he is a well known anthropologist in Hungary.

In 1971 he received the prestigious  Rudolf Martin price in Oxford for his paper titled "The langobard man". He is the founder of International Society for Transoceanic Research,
Berkeley University. For this he received  the award of the Einstein Academy  of United States.
   
Also he was a professor at Berkeley University,Cambridge University,American University of Cairo,Cagliari University of   Italy.

His scientific works appeared in hungarian, english, french, german, italian, russian, chinese, serb,finn,swede, hindi languages.

The web page of Dr. Kiszely Istv�n
istvandr.kiszely.hu

The list of scientific works:
istvandr.kiszely.hu/publikaciok.html

 

 

Very informative posts gerik....

At this stage of the study, it would be premature to conclude that the local differences in the frequency of the Mongoloid markers are associated with certain Hungarian ethnic groups. What is clear is the fact that Mongoloid genetic markers are present in Hungarians in approximately 5%. Quoting professor Bartucz:" The mongoloid elements detected in Hungarians are not homogenous, and fall into several distinct groups that are not the different mixing forms of the same Mongoloid elements, but are original racial types within the Mongoloid race." (L. Bartucz: The Hungarian Man. in: Hungarian Land, Hungarian Race. 19??. p. 428.) The genetic composition of Hungarians shows some similarities with that of the Japanese, so a distant relationship is undeniable. The great differences should be emphasized, however, since the Mongoloid genes are present at a much higher frequency in Mongoloids and Japanese. Is a common origin possible? There are no data available on whether or not Hungarians lived in the vicinity of Japanese. Nevertheless, the contact between Hungarians and Mongoloids are preserved in the genes, although it is not known yet when and where this contact took place.

 

Hungarian Genetic Relations in Asia

Hideo Matsumoto (Osaka Medical College, Japan)

The genetical relationship of the conquerer hungarian people based on
Mitochondrial haplotypes.



The red is european,the blue asian,the green african.

Source:
Rask� Istv�n Genetikai id�utaz�s - Az emberi popul�ci�k eredet�nek nyom�ban (Genetical timetravel - In search for the origin of human populations)  http://www.mindentudas.hu/rasko/20040308rasko.html?pIdx=6

The genetical relationship of the hungarian sz�kely populations based on
Mitochondrial haplotypes.
The red is european,the blue asian,the green african.