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    Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 19:24
I know of this Polish war chant, that Polish knights used to sing into battle.... It is called Bogurodzica "Mother of God"-in English. My signature is lyrics of Bogurodzica.... Here is a link to listen to the chant:

HYMN:
Bogurodzica dziewica, Bogiem slawiena Maryja,
U twego syna Gospodzina matko zwolena, Maryja!
Zyszczy nam, spusci nam.
Kyrieleison.

Twego dziel Krzciciela, bozycze,
Uslysz glosy, napeln mysli czlowiecze.
Slysz modlitwe, jaz nosimy,
A dac raczy, jegoz prosimy:
A na swiecie zbozny pobyt,
Po zywocie rajski przebyt.
Kyrieleison.

TRANSLATION:
O Mother of God, Virgin blessed by God, Maria!
With your son, our Lord, O mother chosen, Maria!
Intercede for us, send Him to us.
Kyrie Eleison.

For the sake of thy Baptist, O Son of God,
Hear our voices, grant the wishes of men
Hear the prayer which we offer
And deign to giv what we ask,
On earth a happy sojourn,
And after life to reside in paradise.
Kyrie Eleison.


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Bogurodzica dziewica, Bogiem sawiena Maryja!
U twego Syna Gospodzina matko zwolena, Maryja!
Zyszczy nam, spuci nam.
Kyrieleison
Twego dziela Krzciciela, Boycze,
Usysz gosy, nape myli czowiecze.
Sysz modlitw, j nosimy,
A da raczy, jego prosimy:
A na wiecie zbony pobyt,
Po ywocie rajski przebyt.
Kyrieleison
هیچ مردی تا به حال به شما درباره خدا گفته.
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  Quote AlbinoAlien Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 20:02
ZUG ZUG ZUG ZUG ZUG!!!!!!! WAR CRY!!!!!!!!
people are the emotions of other people


(im not albino..or pale!)

.....or an alien..
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  Quote Landsknecht_Doppelsoldner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Nov-2005 at 04:31

At the Battle of Hastings in 1066, the Saxon huscarls shouted "Out!" as forced Norman knights away from the shield wall with their 5-foot Danish axes.

During the Reconquista, and continuing on into the 16th century, Spanish soldiers charged while shouting "Santiago!" (Saint James).

16th century Irish warriors, like the kern, shouted "Ub ubub!" (a general Gaelic shout of contempt), which became "hubbub" in English.

 



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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Nov-2005 at 09:49
Basques have used for long the irrintzi, which is something like ayayayayayayayayay or eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee for as long as you can hold yelling - with a very pitched tone. It's a yell of celebration but it can also signal the start of a battle. It was probably one of the last things that Roland ever listened.  

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  Quote Drunt Ba'adur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Nov-2005 at 11:12
The 'Almogavers'(mercenary troops origined in the territorios of actual Catalonia and Valencia that served all along the Mediterranean Sea) used to use a famous warcry: 'Desperta Ferro!!!' while they hit their blades(or whatever they use to fight hand-to-hand) on rocks

Desperta Ferro means something like:

'Wake up Iron!!!' (Iron take life! or whatever)


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  Quote Digenis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Nov-2005 at 14:04
The Byzantines where shouting when marching :"o stavros nika!" "cross wins"
or "(name of the emperor-eg.Ioanni)..sy nikas!"or "...tum vicas!" ="..u win!)

and when charging "Aeraaaaa!" ="wiiiind!" (this was used by the 19th-20th century Greek too.


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  Quote Raider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Nov-2005 at 09:26

 

Some chronicle-writer says while the noble and pious German knights chanted: Kyrie Eleison!, the Hungarian raiders shouted the devilish hui-hui.

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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Nov-2005 at 13:46
Anther Basque yell of battle (or sometimes celebration) is gora gu ta gutarrak! (up with us and our kin!). 

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  Quote Emperor Barbarossa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Dec-2005 at 23:25

A Hussite war hymm was"Kdo jsou Bo bojovnci" ("Ye Who Are Warriors of God").            

                             "Ye who are warriors of God and His law,

                               Pray to God for help and have faith in him,

                               that finally with him you will be victorious."



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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2005 at 00:21
Originally posted by Maju

up with us and our kin!
Which kin is that?
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2005 at 05:29
Originally posted by cattus

Originally posted by Maju

up with us and our kin! 
Which kin is that?


Ours.

Gutarrak means literally "the ours", "those that are ours" but I rather translated it loosely as "our kin". "Our peers", "our friends" would also be acceptable translations.

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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2005 at 14:36
Ok I see, I thought it may have referred to a close peoples or ally of the Basque at the time of its concoction which would have been interesting.
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  Quote Marquis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2007 at 01:20
The Spanish soldiers would usually yell out "santaiago" or "espana" when they were about to meet the enemy.........
San Ka Raque Sadan te ma ranaqua seku kadan.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2007 at 02:15
"Santiago y cierra Espaa", actually.
 
Santiago Matamoros is the "magical" Spanish saint and super-heroe of the Reconquist. It is also the military icon of Spain.
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  Quote Reginmund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2007 at 02:17
"Matamoros" I presume is composed of "matar"/"to kill" and "Moros"/"Moors", meaning something like "Moor-killer"?

It's amazing how they managed to pin that function on St. Jacob.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2007 at 02:30
Saint James... LOL
 
Well, to understand its origin, you must go into the resistence of the Northern Spaniards to the Muslim invasion of the 8th century. The legend of Santiago de Compostela is in the root of it. Santiago Matamoros is a supernatural warrior, the specter of Saint James, that appeared in the worst moments of the battles fighting in the side of Spaniards and killing the Moors. With time it become in the symbol of Reconquist, and later in the military saint of Spain. Many cities called Santiago in the New World are named after him.
 
Santiago Compostela
 
 
Images of Santiago in battle
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Quote Tar Szernd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2007 at 18:05
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Our "songs" from the time before 1500 are sadly disappeared, but we got some from the 1500-1700's, with 30-100 verses.
 
 (and etc in the hung. and other habbits of battle:-)
 
 


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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2007 at 22:49
mmh, it occurs to me that people here confused war cry with war chant....
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