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Stony Keeper of Orleans, the one who finally defeated Attila

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    Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 09:54

In early 451, Attila crossed the Rhine River with a large army of Huns, Ostrogoths, Gepids and other allies and ravaged Gaul, sacking Rheims, Mainz, Strasbourg, Cologne, Worms and Trier. Even Paris was threatened behind its thick walls before Attila turned his attention to Orleans, the capital city of the Iranian Alans in central Gaul. But Orleans was strictly defended by Sangiban (Sangi=Stony & Ban=Keeper), the Alanian king. therefore Attila was forced to abandon the seige of Orleans and retired with his army to the open country near Chalons and Troyes known as the Catalaunian Plains.

The Battle of Chalons (451 AD) [or Battle of Catalaunian Plains]
Attila formed his army in three divisions, with his Hunnic cavalry in the center, the Gepids and other German allies on the right, and his Ostrogothic allies on the left. Sangiban also formed his army into three main divisions, with his Alani cavarly in the center, Visigothic cavalry and infantry on the right, and Romans, Gallo-Romans, Frank and allied Germans on the left.
After fierce fighting, in which the Visigothic king was killed, Attila withdrew and shortly afterward retired from Gaul. This was his first and only defeat.

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  Quote Imperator Invictus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 17:24
I thought Sangiban got routed off after leading the initial attack against the Hun line.
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  Quote Jalair Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 14:43
Are you sure about Sanbiban meaning Stony Keeper? Similariy with current persian does not mean it is Persian. I think at that time Persian/Dari language did not exist. Can you trace t similar names at that time? 
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  Quote Constantine XI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 14:52
I thought it was Aetius who decided how to position the Roman forces and their allies at the Battle of Chalons.
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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 15:50
Originally posted by Constantine XI

I thought it was Aetius who decided how to position the Roman forces and their allies at the Battle of Chalons.
Yes. Aetius suspected treason from Sangiban's side and placed him and the Alans in the middle of the army to prevent him from defecting to the Huns. Based on Jordanes's account, that is, which is the only I have read.


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  Quote Leonardo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 16:14
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

Even Paris was threatened behind its thick walls before Attila turned his attention to Orleans, the capital city of the Iranian Alans in central Gaul.

 
 
Alans were an Iranic (that is: speaking a language of the Indo-Iranic branch) not an Iranian tribe ... Sorry, but nothing to do with Iran ...
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  Quote Sarmat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Dec-2007 at 02:10
Originally posted by Leonardo

Alans were an Iranic (that is: speaking a language of the Indo-Iranic branch) not an Iranian tribe ... Sorry, but nothing to do with Iran ...
 
Except, that Alans and Persians spoke related languages. The descendants of Alans live in Russia BTW. They have there own autonomous republic Norther Ossetia Alania. There is actually also Southern Ossetian republic in Georgia.
 
Ossetians themselves call their language Iron. Smile
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