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    Posted: 24-Oct-2005 at 17:05
What happened to them?
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which Kaiser? German or Austrian?
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Unlike in Russia, the abdication of the last German Emperor went ahead without much ado and without any bloodshed.
The family of Kaiser Wilhelm II went with him into exile in the Netherlands, some of his many children went later back to Germany, there is a Great-Grandson of his, who is the current head of the House Hohenzollern and pretender to the throne, though not terribly actively.

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I believe they still live in Buckingham Palace.
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German.Thanks.
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Wilhelm was exciled to a 'castle' (actualy more like a palace) in Doorn, in the province of Utrecht. I've been there, but not inside it, still, not a bad place to retire to.
Apparently there was a move to extradite him for trial by teh allies, but the Dutch queen at the time refused.
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The family is still in Deutschland and they retain the title of Kaiser.  They have a website too i think
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Eh, wouldn't you need some sort of recognition from the state? I know there are still German aristocratic families, but Kaiser is a whole different matter i would think.
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Nah, in the republics such as Italy, Germany or France all aristocratic titles are private matters without any oficial recognition. It's diferent than in monarchies like Britain or Spain. I know because I have aristocratic Italian ancestors and they have no kind of recognition but for a private association of aristocrats.

So titles such as Kaiser, Baron or whatever are in those countries just a matter of family traditions with no official relevance whatsoever.

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Originally posted by ill_teknique

The family is still in Deutschland and they retain the title of Kaiser. They have a website too i think


The House of Hohenzollern is led by PrinzGeorg Friederich, who has neither the ambition nor a hope in hell ever to claim the title "Kaiser".
The only one who bears that title in Germany at the moment is Franz " Der Kaiser" Beckenbauer, who would beat poor Georg hands down if the Germans ever had to decide which of the two should rule them.
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the kaiserreich (empire) is banned in both Germany and Austria (i think Austria is even strikter, afaik Otto von Habsburg is not even allowed to style himself Prinz like Georg Friedrich). also, the non-existence of Prussia has been terminized by the allies for the de-nazification process, therefore Prinz Georg Firedrich has to style himself Markgraf (Marquis) von Brandenburg, the next highest title after Emperor of Germany and King of Prussia held by the heads of the Hohenzollern House. similar for Otto von Habsburg, the next highest legal title is Markgraf von Mhren (Marquis of Moravia) because Austria (empire), Hungary, Bohemia (Czech Republic) and Croatia (Kingdoms) have all banned the monarchy.
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Originally posted by Komnenos

The House of Hohenzollern is led by PrinzGeorg Friederich, who has neither the ambition nor a hope in hell ever to claim the title "Kaiser".
The only one who bears that title in Germany at the moment is Franz " Der Kaiser" Beckenbauer, who would beat poor Georg hands down if the Germans ever had to decide which of the two should rule them.

Pffff, this in nothing, in Greece we have a German of higher rank, Rehagel the Olympian

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The Kaiser tried to get rid of his frustration by cutting down as many trees as possible.

The crownprince was a supporter of the NSDAP for some time (around 1932/33), but turned away when Hitler declared publicly that he wouldn't restore monarchy.

Wilhelm II himself wasn't so fond of the nazis at first, but he did send a congratulation to Hitler when German troops took Paris.
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