Im guessing the bad relatiosn between Safavids and ottomans were due to Sunni versus Shiite disputes. I heard that these got pretty brutal on occasions.

The bad relations wer mainly due too who controls baghdad and mesopotamia. the ottomans led 3 successfull battles with them over the centuries. sultan selim (mesopotamia), sultan suleyman (capture of baghdad) and sultan murad IV (recapture of baghdad). it was a very big shame that the safavids insisted on war with ottomans even though the turks had much better artillery and modern guns. if they allied and benefited each other, then the ottomans wudnt hav had a 2 front war in some occasions and cud hav consintrated more on europe.

Interesting map, some what differnt from others I have seen....

i looked for a map that showed all 3 empires, it was the best i found and i stated there already that it was probably inaccurate.

At the western Edge of the Islamic world, northafrican Berbers founder two empires that covered the land from Zaragosa in Spain to the river Senegal in Africa.

The Domain of the Almoravids

(1056 - 1147)

1035 The Berber chief of the Yudala tribe, Yahya Ibn Ibrahim, goes on a pilgrimage to Mecca and decides that it is in his people's interest to adhere to the religious teachings of Islam.

1123 The Almohad movement initiates its battle against the Almoravids at Tinmel, south of Marrakech.

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri I think there was a strong link between these empires and it was the Persian language!

really, somehow i dont think persian was the dominant language to link the empires.  

Persian whas maybe dominant language of the leaders but Turks where dominant over those area's...

Originally posted by oTToMAn_TurK Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri I think there was a strong link between these empires and it was the Persian language! really, somehow i dont think persian was the dominant language to link the empires.

I have to agree with my kardesler (eventhough i'm not turkish) OttomanTurk.

A little bird told me that the one that wrote this (Cyrus) could be persian, or of persian origins? Could that be?

It's just to let you know.

You don't have to read it my friend, i did a search on the AE motor for Almurvid, Almohades, Al-Andalus and i came up with: "no search results", so i decided to put some light where there was darkness.

Ma'salaama azimuth.

Why?

well, can you show me a persian speaking minority(not even majority) in ottomans?

a little over estimating persian effect?

Relation between ottomans and moghuls were fine and It is still fine.

Turkey and  Pakistan have good relation, and their people like each other. At least I can say it for turks.

And pakistan(also indian)  muslims sent money for independence war of Turkey.

Below is a link to the Mirat ul Memalik(the Mirror of Nations)(1557) by the Ottoman Admiral Sidi Piri Reis, who was shipwrecked of the Gujarat coastline while fighting the Portuguese. It records his journey home through India, Afghanistan, Iran etc. and shows friendly relations between the Ottoman and Mughal empire. However both Ottomans and Mughals hated the iranians (probably due to prolonged border conflicts, although the ethno-centric arrogance commonly found in iranians posting on these pages may also have been present in Iranians of yesteryear, and contributed to others disliking them). Aurangezeb commonly refered to Persians as "carrion eating wolves", hardly a term of endearment

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00generallinks/ sidialireis/

http://www.siue.edu/HISTORY/SidiAliHindustan.html

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Who would long for the houris of heaven ,

whose good fortune has bought him to the  lulis of Kabul

(Mirat ul Memalik)