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    Posted: 20-Oct-2005 at 22:50
If we could go back in time a hundred years, or a thousand, what would be on the front pages of Medieval Vogue in your country?

Traditional costumes of Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) from all across Bosnia and Herzegovina...

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hmmm,

very close to turkish

-I know

Are u Turkish also???

Becouse Bosniya Hers. was Turkish usually

 
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Yes and no. Racially we're Slavic, but since the Ottoman Empire brought about the end of the independent Bosnian church, most of the linguistic, cultural, and historical attributes that make modern Bosniaks different from the rest of our neighbors are Turkish in origin.

We, of course, absorbed this into our own culture and it's still very easy to tell when you're among Bosniaks in a Bosnian city and when you're among Turks in a Turkish city - but the similarities are there.
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some like moi are mixed turk and bosnian 
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Originally posted by ill_teknique

some like moi are mixed turk and bosnian 


Not many, but that's only because only modern mixed marriages are acknowledged. Bosniaks whose parents married non-Bosniaks, or who live outside of Bosnia, would know - but it's a cultural thing within Bosnia that you only marry your own. Marrying a Bosnian Croat or Bosnian Serb would be more acceptible than marrying a Turkish Bosniak. Have you ever been harassed or anything, teknique?

And I forgot the most important costume.

During the Ottoman Empire, a lottery was held every year to select young women from across Bosnia to be trained in dance, sex, cooking, etc... it was actually considered somewhat an honor.

The girls who were chosen covered their bodies from head to toe in green or red cotumes. They wore bells on their ankles and it was forbidden to even look at them.

Most ended up in harems in Turkey. They say this was the inspiration for Ivo Andric's character Fata in the Nobel prize winning book 'The Bridge Over the Drina'. "There was an enchanted circle around Fata of the nature which always surrounds the most beautiful girl in a small village. Not only was she beautiful, but she had her Father's intelligence. For these wondrous reasons she remained until late in her years without a husband and left behind, instead of a life fullfilled, a song and a story. 'Thou art wise as thou art lovely, lovely Fata'"
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Turkish Cypriot folk dancers in traditional costume.

(looks similar to Bosniaks)
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whole world costumes look same to me
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not really, when i saw those pics of Mila i tought she shows the Turkish dancers, but they arent lol but it looks like Turkish
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yeap, that's what I mean they all look the same.only few differences in details
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'Welsh national custume'



Google for more, i'm lazy.
Its basicly been reduced to an 'ethnic costume', that is to say, denied a normal status relevant to the present.
The actual 'costume' (for it has literaly become that) is based on trends in the early 1800s, the hat was really an optional feature, and there were originaly many styles, but now mostly you only see the one. There were also originaly many colours, but red become the difinitive colour (see the Welsh flag for details).
The clothing itself, was for sure Welsh, uniquely so on times, though some of the basic styles had localised variations over much of the UK. Just that in parts of Wales, traditional handicrafts survived the Industrial revolution and its onslaught of cheap fabrics untill a later date than other parts of the UK and so to did those styles, and was the result of a continous evoltion.

Then the nationalists turned it into a static symbol, a uniform of identity, and denied it its natural evolution and acceptance. It ceased to evolve and be updated and be reinvented, and became a mere ethnic costume, good for the national celebration days and the tourists, but little else. Stuck in a time warp, or a glass bottle, effectivly dead as a real tradtion, but imortalised as a symbol.

Sad really, it is for this reason that i oppose the notion of the 'ethnic costume', either you do it properly, or you don't do it at all. Trying to keep it in am imaginary state of purity just kills it.
Hopefully someday someone will draw inspiration from it and breath new life into it. Who knows.


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A little video clip depicting all the traditional costumes of Yugoslavia. It's from Radenska, a Slovenian mineral water, and was produced during the time of Yugoslavia.

The costumes it shows are, in order:

1. Slovenian
2. Croatian
3. Bosniak
4. Vojvodinian
5. Serbian
6. Albanian
7. Montenegrin
8. Macedonian



Of course the Bosniak waitress is the most beautiful.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/6285629821832466/radenska/

It's also a nice lesson in stereotypes and ethnic tensions. The Slovenians who made this commercial depicted the Slovenians in it as modern, westerners. The Croatians were depicted as poor fishermen. The Bosniak were depicted with subservient women. The Vojvodinians were depicted as bike-riding, toothless beggars. The Serbs were depicted as nasal, hands-in-air nationalist idiots where brides are already pregnant on their wedding day, the Kosovars were ice cream makers, and the Macedonians were tobacco farmers.

More or less what modern Slovenians still think of us all. LOL




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Denizli my home city but i was born and live in germany

thats not me

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i love uzbekistan
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Bakma; those are like as we know "efeler" in Turkey

an example:
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sorry i mean youre ( ) costume
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India has many ethnicities n each ethnicity has its own historical/traditional clothes.In Indian context I think it would be better to call such clothes traditional rather than historical bcoz these clothes r still worn.SARIGHAGRA CHOLI

 

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Some Classical Dances from India

1}Bharatnatyam
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Some Folk Dances

1}Bhangra
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