Slavic Warriors

What about Slavic knights, as in Ancient Slavic knights. Are there any famous Slavic knights?

By some theories south slavs are actually slavs by laungage rather than by blood.

For example: The first mention of a name "Hrvat"(Croat) was in Hamurabi's law as "Harauvatish" as one of the many peoples that were in service of persian emperor, 2nd time it was mention in one greek document as a same for the populance that lived on the coast of the Black Sea as "Sarauvati" etc...

Croats are thus considerd to be an indoeuropian horsemen tribe that took slavic laungage from the slavs whom they encouterd when they arrived from the east.

About fameous Slavic knights- Jan Sobjenski(Ian Sobienski- Polish King) I know he was not an ancent warior but he was still soo cool!

Jan Sobieski was pretty cool I have no argueent with that haha, but I dont know if Id call him a knight, I know he planned the battles out, but was he in the acctual fighting? either way he had a gift when it comes to military, Im not too sure though I'd say he was as good in politics as in military. As for the case for the Hrvati, you first have to ask yourself what is a slav before you can say which slavic peoples are more slavic then the other, personally, since no one really knows 110% where the slavs came form, I believe the Hrvati and the Serboi were the first of the slavic peoples who were in fact a tribe of horsemen most likely a Sarmatian/Alan tribe, who FIRST settled in the area of Poland and Ukraine and after that migrated down to the south, however because they migrated doesnt mean those tribes that first settled in Poland and Ukraine all left. I believe that was the nucleus of the states of Poland and Rus. But thats just a theory and I cant really back it up. So I do believe the South Slavs are as Slavic as the Northern Slavs, and if there is any arab influence in there genes or culture or look, its from the 5 centuries of Ottoman rule.

hehe sarmata most probably that slavs  dont see much arab  at ottomans  time.

 

In my oppinoin it is difficult to mix genes of ottomans and slavs.I know that slavs men  take slav women.Well ottoman may steal some slav women(they are very beautiful) but the children become ottomans.Look now in Macedonia-albainain marrage to albanian macedonian to macedonian.It is rare to become a mix.As a neighbour of Turkey I can claim that there is visual difference between a turk and a bulgar(serb,even albanian).May be greek are closer to turk(because of their south situation).From turk culture here is still in charge music(chalga) it is not so bad.About slavs warier-I know that they  are one of the best(Bulgarian,Russian,Polish,Ukraine,Czech and so)

Considering genetic maps, culture and customs i would rather say that notion "slavic" has rather linguistical sence, not genetic. Genetically and culturally the differences between Western, Eastern and Soughtern slavic groups are quite large. The folklore of Bulgarians, Poles and Russians isnt even similar.The thing which is similar is language.

I guess that before christianisation the other things which was similar to most of slavic tribes was religion but today Slavic nations are member of all the christian factions.

Edited by Mosquito

Originally posted by Subotai Not only that but they have different religion.And for the look i dont know for the other slavs ,but the bulgarians somethimes not so slavic look(or names) the reason is the bulgar tribes (for those that dont know bulgars are turkik tribe) that come here in 5th and 7th century.Different slavic tribes are powerful in different times(only i dont remember when the Serbs are strong)

Thats true different naitons of slavs each had their moments of glory...Serbs had theirs during the rule of Stefan Dusan, a pretty impressive balkan empire, in fact it was more powerful then either venice or the Turks but because of his sudden death he did not secure an heir and his empire collapsed. Dusan acctually had a dream to absorb the Byzantine Empire and make Constantinople his new capital, for a time it almost seemed that he would succeed with this dream, however once again his sudden death destroyed his dreams.

In all our differences I fell one polishman closer than some romanian who is my neghbour.I know that from all slavian countries Bulgaria first have their own state(I am not sure).But in 861 Bulgaria was established as slavo-bulgarian country and after about 150 years it became state with slavian culture and ethnicaliy was slavian.I think it is the princip of forming Poland,Ukrain,Russia and other.Only this maked up FYRM is 100% clear eventhough 500 000 albanians and 1 500 000 bulgars living there

Originally posted by Subotai And for the look i dont know for the other slavs ,but the bulgarians somethimes not so slavic look(or names) the reason is the bulgar tribes (for those that dont know bulgars are turkik tribe) that come here in 5th and 7th century.

I dont thinks thats the real reason thas Bulgars differ.Its the same thing with the Slavs of FYROM and so on.
Newcomers usually do not expell all the old people of an area.So for ex.Turks are not Mongoloid any more,and the southern slavs are so different from the north.

Originally posted by Digenis the southern slavs are so different from the north.

I dont know, if they're that different, I have some Serbian and Croatian friends, language is very close, as well as beliefs and customs. Polish and Croatians prayer is very similar of course I dont always understand what htey say but I catch on to some of it.