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    Posted: 08-Oct-2005 at 22:19

Why?

-German army lost

-Paulus could not decide what to do

-Red army lost 2 times more than Paulus

-Hitler sacrisfied his army

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  Quote Vlad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Oct-2005 at 03:50
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Oct-2005 at 16:40
Originally posted by Janissary

Why?

-German army lost

see points below

-Paulus could not decide what to do

he wanted to retreat but was ordered by Hitler to hodl teh city to the last man, he was not allwoed to descide himself

-Red army lost 2 times more than Paulus

in urban warfare the attacker usually is at an disatvantage, plus, the German soldiers were experienced and most of the early Soviet troops were not

-Hitler sacrisfied his army

he was a corporal, no commander, what do you expect?

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  Quote Janissary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Oct-2005 at 18:20

Hitler, may order Paulus to atack the south flank of Soviet circle, and at the same time Erich von Manstain could atack the same flank of the enemy, and Paulus may be saved.

Why Paulus waited the order? Was he so obeyable? He may just give a positive reaction to Erich's suggest.

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  Quote giani_82 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Oct-2005 at 05:59

He was given the exact opposite order, so was von Manstain. After all it was a matter of going to a military court for disobeyance, losing all the prestige and gain public humiliation plus certain death.

Besides, Paulus was promoted to a feldmarshall, and prior to him no officer in that position ever surrendered - clear sign that he should fight to the last man, don't you think.

Why the Germans lost? Well the Red Army has quite a large rear, and even larger human resource. The counter offensive on the 19th of November was briliantly organized and Paulus was fast to lose the support of the hungarian and romanian divisions. That along with the specific orders of the furher to never surrender nor step back made the loss possible. After all von Manstein couldn't crash the blockade of the city, and Paulus knew what will wait for him if tried to leave the city and join the South Army. I'm not stunned even by the fact that Paulus joined the Red Army to support the Soviet propaganda.

"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising everytime we fall."
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  Quote Janissary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Oct-2005 at 17:56

But I think, it is Because of Zhkov, Paulus Lost

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