ATATURK!!!

SECT IS HARAM AND IS IN THE HELLFIRE....

QURAN <--- WORD OF ALLAH (SUBHANA WA TEALA)

1. Allaah says: "And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allaah (i.e., this Qur'an), AND BE NOT DIVIDED among yourselves." Surah Aali-`Imraan [3:103]

2. And He says: "And do not be among the polytheists. Of those who split up their religion and became SECTS, each SECT rejoicing in that which is with it." Surat-ur-Room [30:31-32]

3. The Messenger of Allaah said: "I counsel you to have Taqwaa of Allaah and to hear and obey, even if an Abyssinian slave were to command you. For, verily, whoever amongst you lives (to grown old), he will see many differences. So stick to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided khaleefahs. Cling tightly onto it and hold onto it with your molar teeth. And beware of newly invented matters. For, indeed, every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is a thing that leads astray, and everything that leads astray is in the Hellfire."

4. And he also said: "Indeed those from before you from the People of the Book divided into SEVENTY-TWO GROUPS. And, indeed, this group (Muslims) will divide into seventy-three. SEVENTY-TWO GROUPS will be in the HELLFIRE and one of them will be in Paradise. And it is the Jamaa'ah (group)."

And in another narration, he said: "Everyone of them in the Hellfire, except for one group that which I and my companions are upon."

Allaah, has commanded us to hold tightly onto the Glorious Qur'an, and to not be like the polytheists who divide their religion into SECTS AND PARTIES. And the honorable Messenger has informed us that the Jews and the Christians have divided into many SECTS, and that the Muslims will divide into more SECTS than them. And that these groups will subjected to the  entrance into the Hellfire due to their deviation and their distancing away from the Book of their Lord and Sunnah of their Prophet. He also informed us that one SAVED SECT from among them will enter Paradise, and it is the Jamaa'ah (group), those who cling tightly onto the book of Allaah and the authentic Sunnah, and the actions of the companions of the Messenger of Allaah.

There are many made up systems or altered ones and these will all go to HELLFIRE. Allah(SWT) gave us the perfect system which is Islam. And the correct explantion is in the QURAN of how to live this system properly. Thos ignorant and selfsided people create there own SECTS. What is democracy?Capitalism?Socialism?Communism?KEMALISM? There all man-made systems. And so are ALL in the Hellfire. Allah has shown us the right path. Those who dotn accept it and are ignorant to the truth ALLAH has put a seal on there eyes and ears so that they may never walk on the straight path.

knowing the hijab is a law by Allah and should be accepted as normal its something that MKA removed permanently in public whereas thats the place where the hijab is supposed to be worn which brings us to todays discrimination of it.

Here is a guidline for the hijab.....(read if you want to learn)

Most Muslims are familiar with the various reasons that Allah has required women to wear hijab: The hijab reflects modesty, purity and respect; it lessens temptation so that more serious sins will be avoided; it protects women from the harm and molestation of evil men; a woman who wears hijab will be evaluated for her intelligence and skills rather than her appearance.

Allah says: "O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them. That is more suitable that they will be known (as Muslims and chaste believing women) and not be abused."
[Qur'an, 33:59]

The issue was not about whether women should or should not wear the hijab.

I was simply giving an example of how MKA said that he was trying for a democracy yet forbade this basic human right.

Try telling a non-Turk that our nation has a hat revolution and they will laugh at you.

Who installed him into power, thanks to who is there a strong millitery presence that dont know when to stay out of politics. I dont remember any one asking for the Caliphate to be removed. I could go and on.

Now what is the word iam looking for, you know when somebody tells others to do something (democracy) whilst doing something totally diffrent themselves (militaristic dictator)?

When the majority is ignorant, you need a wise society to enlighten them. Jahalah is the origin of all sins isnt it?

BTW, I should say I have nothing against women wearing hijab, I believe they should wear it whenever or wherever they wish. It is up to her to wear hijab or mini skirts, not anyones business. But please dont macth the ideology banning hijab in government courts with Ataturk's revolution. He, himself didnt declare such laws banning or prohibiting it. He was a true intellectual of his time. Women were able to vote in Turkey before they got the same chance in any European country such as France. We should all be thankful to him, no matter what our religious or political views are...

Well, ignorants are generally te majority in most societies, but if they gain the power, then the situation is no good.

We witnessed in history when majority of some society, which was truely ignorant have gained the control of the whole society. For example during the WWII, we all know that majority of German society was ignorant about Hitler, they were mostly supporting it. During WWI, Arabs were mostly ignorant, they were fighting with British against their caliphate, though I guess they couldnt imagine that someday those British would help the Jews establishing their state in some Arab terratory.

Same situation for Turks during the late Ottoman period. Most of the Anatolian population was ignorant, more likely kept so. But they didnt have the chance to rule/control themselves. Their so called masters in Istanbul used to do it. They were ignorant, because Anatolia was the backgarden of the empire, where the most brainwashed, most fanatic religious society was grown up. It was hungry, it was poor, and it was dying. It was full of buds declaring themselves messiahs or shiks. So we simply needed a revolution, and some wise ones, who could help us and save us from hundreds of years of ignorance.

Sultan Mehmet Vahiduddin was not angry to anyone for the unlucky things that he underwent. One day his chief assistant, Mr Avni, asked a very interesting question to him:

�If one day victoriously, you return homeland, what will you do to Mustafa Kemal?�

Before answering the question Sultan Mehmet Vahiduddin closed his eyes and after a short time he answer the question:

�My ancestor, Yavuz Sultan Selim departed to make a war with the Persians. His soldiers suffered from the long expeditions. At the end the soldiers decided to kill Yavuz Sultan Selim Khan to rescue from campaign. One of them said that he would kill the Sultan. He concealed himself on the Sultan�s way. As Sultan Selim was coming on his horse, with a great majesty and pomp. The soldier, who decided to kill him, saw the Sultan as if a lion and could not have killed him. He left his sword and appeared from his place. Then started to implore in tears.

�My sultan, kill me, I have engraved it. Because I had decided to kill you.� Yavuz Sultan Selim took pity on him and said:

�Go, I forgive you, we always need a such courageous soldiers as brave as to kill us.�

How my ancestor Sultan Selim Khan forgave that soldier, I would forgive Mustafa Kemal, as well. Since my armies need a brave soldier like Mustafa Kemal, so I forgive Mustafa Kemal and send him to the service of the nation.

Because quran is most important thing,  this does not make sunnah unimportant.

Try telling a non-Turk that our nation has a hat revolution and they will laugh at you.

Well we should not forget Ataturk was an ottoman officer, and an ottoman intellectual. Most of  ottoman intellectuals used force for their ideas. This is way of ottomans at their decline. As people think, he is not son of cumhuriyet, but son of Ottomans.

Most of the Anatolian population was ignorant, more likely kept so. But they didnt have the chance to rule/control themselves. Their so called masters in Istanbul used to do it. They were ignorant, because Anatolia was the backgarden of the empire, where the most brainwashed, most fanatic religious society was grown up. It was hungry, it was poor, and it was dying.

Well how do you know this? I dont think people of anatolia was so fanatic. Crimes against christians didnt made by anatolian people but elites of istanbul(or selanik). Main problem was elites of ottomans were ready for using force. So Ataturk used force too.

Maybe beneficial way, but do he have right that to force people change their all life style is another question. He created democracy of Turkey, but he himself was not a democrat, he is another ottoman elite.

7. The hijab is Haya' (Bashfulness) 

I do not agree. 

To wear or not to wear a Hijab should be up to women. You can not force a person into religious practices - if you do, the religious message becomes only a blur (a reason to make a person do something she/he would not do in otherwise).

Look at France, they are so afraid of youg muslim girls wearing hijabs at school that they made it forbidden (in schools only, not universities and other public places). THIS IS WRONG, the French GVT was not able handle the problem with their northafrican and saharian (Tchad, Mali, Niger, Senegal...) immigration feeling rejected by the white society, hence they turn to whats left of their roots (or should i say their parents' roots) - Religion.

I am not saying that they are extremists of any kind, they just want to differ from the french that reject them.   

Did you know that religion evolves with its time?

vahdettin whas an english spy, a traitor!!

He left Istanbul with an english ship....