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September 19 - Battle of Poitiers 1356

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The Battle of Poitiers was fought in the Hundred Years war. It was the second of the three well-known English victory of the war, the others being Crecy and Againcourt.

Earlier in August of the same year, Edward the "Black Prince" landed in France on another chevauche (raid). Eventually, he had on his tail the army of John II, King of France who had built a force to oppose the Prince. After days of maneuvering, the two armies met for battle near Poitiers. The two armies were roughly evenly matched on paper.

Edward positioned his infantry at the center, flanked by longbowmen and reared by knights hidden in the forest. The French opened with a cavalry attack against the English left flank, but again the longbows proved devastating against the Knights' horses, dismounting them as they charged home. With the cavalry failing, the footmen closed in to melee. Amist the hard fighting, Edward sent his hidden cavalry around a hill to outflank the French. Taken by surprise, the confused line fled in panic before the English cavalry. John II was captured.



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September 19. 1928. First Mickey mouse cartoon is released.
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I think the 'other' battle of Poitiers was more important.
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I would argue that neither battles of Poitiers were significant in history. The "other" one that you're talking about (Tours) was a skirmish overblown by historians such as Gibbons.
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Had the invaders won at Tours it would likely have just delayed the inevitable. The Franks would have regrouped and swept out the invading forces from their feeble hold on the hostile countryside.
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I think that "the other battle of Poitiers" (or Tours) in 732 was not at all decisive in the Arabs's progression in western Europe. Abderrahman's death during this battle that opposed the Francs against the Muslims was not the factor for the Arabs' retreat to Spain.

The Arabs did not have enough manpower or ressources to continue their progression.

It is said in France that this battle was not at all significant during the middle ages and had been exagerated in the begining of the 19th century for the use of colonial propaganda.

Al Andalus should have stopped at the Pyrenneans - the natural fronier - for some time, in order to grow stronger before launching an attack on the Franks (divided at the time). 

 

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