Scythia means Parthia and Persia (Part of Iran)

Parthia (Persian Part) = Part, Portion, Patch, Piece form Old French Pieche from Latin Partiri
Persia (Persian Pars) = Parish, Parcel, Portion

What about Scythia (Persian Saka)?

Shift from Old Enlish sciftan = Old Persian shkiftan, Pahlavi and Modern Persian shekaftan, Old Frisian skifta, Old German schiften, schichten, Old Norse skipta (divide, separate)
Score from Old Norse Skora = Old Persian Shkar (make an incision, cut, prey)
Schizo- from Greek Skhizein (split, divide, separate)
Section from Latin secare (cut, split)
Shield from Old English scildan (divide, separate)

Find the origin of these words yourselves:
Segment
Sheaf
Separate
Split
Skirt
Shirt
Short
Shear
Secret
Shard
Share
Slit
Sunder
Screen
Sever
...

Edited by Cyrus Shahmiri

"Parthia" and "Persia" were related words in Old Iranian.  "Persia" (Old Persian, Parsa and "Parthia" (Old Persian, Parthava meant "borderland".  The Assyrians knew of at least two Iranian "borderlands".  One was on the frontier of Media itself, known as Parsua, and the other was located on the southeastern frontier of Elam, known as Parsumash, which was the Parsa of the Old Persian inscriptions and the present-day province of Fars.  The place-name "Parthia" was a relatively newer term.  It does not occur in the Zend Avesta, which had other place-names for this region.  It was probably the "borderland" of the Median Empire.

The meaning of "Scythia" is rather problematic.  The Greeks called the Scythians {i]Skuthai and the Assyrians called them Ashguzai or Ishguzai which points to the original name of this steppe people.  Some theories abound but none hold wide acceptance. 

The word "(A)Par" appeared arround the date of death of Bum�n Qaghan i.e. 533 AD in Bilge Qaghan and K�l Tigin inscriptions. Covered nations and countries between Tibet and Byzantium. But much earlier,in an Armenian source between 442 -495 AD, the word Apar was used to describe "Kushan Country" ( at this time under rule of the Hephtalites ), probably today's Khorasan.

Nishapur, Tus, Koshm, Wrkan were mentioned as Apar -shahr in later Armenian sources, generaly meaning Northeastern Persia and Aria. Then if Apar means Avar it would support the thesis that in the majority Avars were in fact the Central Asian Var and Chionite tribes.

Edited by Rava

Abar-shahr=Super-city, Abar (Pahlavi Apar) means "Over", this prefix is also used when we want to say something is very large, for example: Abarkuh=A very large mountain, Abarmard=Great man, Abarcomputer=Mainframe, ...

Edited by Cyrus Shahmiri

The problem here is that the name Abarshahr appears almost 700 years before any mention of the Avars......unless, of course, someone can prove that either they were Iranic-speaking, or it was simply a name given them by steppe-Iranians. 

ah, that Abar is similar to German �ber...  

The guy on the bottom looks a lot like me.  How about that!

I think I've seen that picture before in this forum.  Are they Turks visiting Sogdiana?

 

Well, here is an ancient fresco of Sogdians in  Penjikent town (Tajikistan). Note the slant eyes of eastern iranic people (Sogdians).

http://www.ej.ru/058/life/04/index.html

Edited by Elteber

Originally posted by ihsan Hmm, Elteber, Turkic peoples didn't have such thick beards, that is a typical Iranic thing

Well, then I guess the first Scythian guy is Persian, the second one is Turkic since he doesn't have beard.

Seriously, those two Scythian guys look like modern Kypchaks and Karluks.
The first guy looks like Uzbek or Kazakh. The second one is a typical Tatar.

Edited by Elteber

Originally posted by Rava Don't forget where the reconstruction was carried out. It's looks like a compromise...

 
 I would fully share your doubts and concerns if the reconstruction would have been carried out in Turkey. Given that Russia would often portray turkic people as savage and inferior, it's hard to believe that they would compromise in favor of turkic people. If there was a compromise, then it was in favor of  "indo-europeans". 

 

Edited by Elteber