Who do turks consider closer

Originally posted by kingofmazanderan In my opinion the majority of turks not counting kurds are Turanian and i have heard Turanians are Aryans so i think they are closer to Iranians. But alot of people on the west coast of Turkey really see themselves as close to Greeks.� When they go fishing they have Greek flags on thier boats.

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Originally posted by kingofmazanderan In my opinion the majority of turks not counting kurds are Turanian and i have heard Turanians are Aryans so i think they are closer to Iranians.

well, going into the whole turan issue is even more confusing. there are those that say turanians were turkic and there are those that say turanians were iranic.

the word turan itself is an iranic word which was later adopted by pan turkics. look at feramez's signature for an example. that is contradictory because the turks are using an iranic word to symbolise "their" homeland.

so the whole turan thing is confusing, and that is why i never use it, i just say turkic.

 

Turkic peoples = Iranian / Mongolian

It is a wrong assumption, since the proto-Turks such as Xiong-nu (Huns), Dingling etc. have existed long before the eastern Mongol tribes who spoke a different Altaic language unified under the name of "Mongol" and under a common dialect. And there's no proof of Mongolians and Turks being from the same origin either, actually Mongols are thought to immigrate to C.A. from the west of Manchuria, and Turks inhabiting the region around Altai and Tenri Mountains, Central Asia.

But I agree that Turks had IE influence long before their expansion to west. For examples, the Sakas were a tribal confederation like Gauls, altough they had various ethnicities in them such as Turkic tribes. The tombs in Turfan region also prove that Turks, actually western Turkic people, have mixed with IEs in Central Asia before the Huns. And the vice versa. I don't think the IEs such as ancestoral Tajiks, Khorasanis or Sogdians looked different from modern Uzbegs or Turkmens. Eastern IEs (Iranians mainly) have always had Turkic admixture definately. Today, Afghans and Tajiks are fine examples of this intermixing.

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I think people may belong different races and it doesn't matter much for me. Admixture means richness. And many nations of the Middle East, Iranians, Azeris, Turks, Syrians, Armenians etc. are all considered millioners by ethnic admixture. But if we are to create recipes out of these various ethnic compounds, Iranians would definately have a taste of rich Chinese cuisine...

Well, the topic is not about construction work and I'm not Turkish; nor Turk.... so your words has nothing to do with me.

I should say, especially to Tangriberdi that linguistically Hungarians are so close to Altaic languages including Turkic. Lots of common things can be found among words and grammer of both languages. You, being a Turkmen, are close to people like Yakut or Mongols; but are they Moslem? Do Mongols speak Turkmen?

Just a few pages of any historical documentation about this link and you'll know everything about what we're talking about.

Should I give the recipe for iranian roast? It's a little spicy tho, I don't recommend but it's your call

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Originally posted by Herschel Turkic peoples = Iranian / Mongolian Turks of Turkey = Anatolian with a pinch of Turkic contribution

yakuts are closer to turks.

Turkic peoples = Iranian / Mongolian

Turks of Turkey = Anatolian with a pinch of Turkic contribution

Originally posted by Mortaza Kald�r�m, not kaldrma. By the way, That hungarian turks connection is absolutely comic, do we have common langauge? no, do we have common culture ? no, do we have commen religion? no. No it is not. Do we? Yes the answer is not . But we used to. our languages have common words about 250 except Arabic and Persian and other ones borrowed by Hungarian from Turkish-Ottoman language. This Turkic heritage in Hungarian language dates back to early Hungarians not to ottomans. Early Hungarians used to believe in Shamanism. So did Turks. Hungarian Folk music was/is pentatonic just like Turks and Other Altaic people. And early Hungarian cuisine was much similar to Central Asian one. Both peoples used Runic alphabets of different types. There is a certain relation. But no one says Hungarians are Turkic. Being Turkic means being a Turk or being of a Turkish tribe. Hungarians are most probably not Turks. But they were and are close to Turks.

Hungarians have as much with Turks as we do with Germans,Slavs or even the Mongols.
So the topic: if i was Turkish i would say Iranians are closer to me then Greeks.
Dont be saying Hungarians this,Hungarians that-we know you are impresed with us but lett me tell you-Turks,as people, impres me very much. As well as do Greeks or Iranians but none of them were here where i live,but Turks were and for exsample,built roads(kaldrma).So yeah guys-thanks for these roads.
 

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