Why not a Kurdistan?

lol

Erci, your sister is very lucky because she survived. You know, we have hundreds of teachers being appointed to southeastern cities and then murdered by the terrorists. Reasons are as they say, they dont accept Turkish governmental actions. Then, they want help from their western media and claim Turkish government doesnt even send them teachers.

But that shouldnt cause us to generalize all Kurds and change the issue into a Turk vs. Kurd conflict, like our pm does. It isnt an ethnic issue, but an issue of greater plans on our lands and people. It is an issue btw Turkey-Iran-Syria and PKK, not Turks ves. Kurds.

The ONLY time I personally would agree on a creation of kurdistan (if not joining iran) is when american terrorists are forced our of middle east, same with british and all westerners, all puppet western regimes overthrown by the people for democratic and pro-eastern nations. israel destroyed, middle east stablizied due to the fact of democracy and independence of the people, the west compensates and apologizes to the middle easterners ,basically western politicians should come and kiss our feet, lick our toes, and beg for forgiveness.

then and only then after stabilization and independence, a nuetral ground whihc is not menifested by agents of terrorist western regimes, we will decide to allow a kurdish state, one which its creation would not serve the west, one which will not start destablization of the region, one which is inline with the east. one which is not a tool and a puppet state of the west. only then there will be a KURDISTAN.

Israel is not even a real country for god's sake. its a make belief state.

and if any people are descendents of acient hebrews, and israelies, its the palestinians.

and how is this related to anything I said?

I didnt mean that. Altough we never had a "Turkey" before, we had an ethnic identity before, we had our states before. But what Kurds had their own before some western imperialist and Russia became aware of their potential of being used? No need to discuss on that, they have already been discussed.

That isnt totally true, according to Turkish laws, even Ezan is prohibited because it is nonTurkish, but it isnt applied. Kurdish parties always use Kurdish during their meetings and public speeches. Turkey have opened Kurdish educating schools but they were closed because of lack of interest. And believe me, they have their own radio channels. TRT had Kurdish programs once a week but they werent any interested by the "oppressed" Kurds. What more rights are you talking about? We even had a couple of Kurdish pms.

Sure, then maybe Turkey, Azerbaijan and Iran may agree on some points with treaties. For example giving all southeastern Anatolia to Iran, in exchange of dividing Tehran and giving half of it to Azerbaijan with the 1/3 of Iran containing Turkish population. Giving Khorasan to Turkmenistan and Khuzestan to Iraq, Iran would become a safe country with a minimal population of 30 million.

I see you are really trying to be objective here and I seriously appreciate your effort. But believe me, it isnt just a personal issue. Our pm is visiting Diyarbak�r with an army of 4000 bodyguards, anyone seeing that would think if he is visiting Northern Korea or something...

It wouldnt matter if the Palestinians were the descendents of Native Americans or Han dynasty. They were the ones living, occupying at that region until a foreign force have exiled them from their homes.

Woodrow Wilson's 14 points. Now wouldn't that be nice if the victors of WWI implemented it. Of course, I am taking that partialistic statement in stride by the one poster who brings it up. The fascinating Treaty of Sevres is dead. Never had a chance. One reason. The Turks formed their independence. We don't need revisionist wishful history. Plain 'ol history will do. Who recognizes the 'Kurdish State' before and after the birth of the Turkish republic? The ones who wished their never was a Turkish Republic thats who. The ones who tried to stop a Turkish state from forming in the first place.

Same old song and dance.