Is the majority of westerners uncomfortable with Islam?

There were top Armenian generals (from the Russian Empire) on the Russian side.

 Samuel Huntington, author of "The Clash of Civilizations," tells us that out of 22 active conflicts in the world today, 20 involve Moslems and someone else - Moslems and Christians, Moslems and Jews, Moslems and Catholics, Moslems and Orthodox, Moslems and Hindus.

Perhaps this sheads a little light on why not just the western world, but east and west, are a little uneasy with Islam..

I do not believe that all Muslims think this way but it seems there some who do take it to this extreme. I have been told that only about 10% of Muslims in the world take it to this extreme so what is 10% out of around 1.1 billion??? I would ask peaceful Muslims like Seko what are you doing to support the peaceful side of Islam and your interpretation of the Koran? Since I have your attention anything new in the supplement world? I suggest checking out hyluronic acid.

Islamic radicals demand guilty verdict for Christians
Women on trial for teaching Bible to children with permission of parents

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Posted: August 21, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By John M. Lindner
� 2005 Assist News Service

Islamic radicals are in no way concealing their agenda as they campaign for a guilty verdict in a court case involving three Christian women accused of "Christianizing" Muslim children in Indonesia.

An Indonesian correspondent known only as Ibrahim B. says their agenda is spelled out in an Indonesian-language book with an English title, "Jihad and the Foreign Policy of the Khilafah State...... see link


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=458 60

Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival Whatever...Armenians make kick-ass generals either way. Joaqim Murat, Napoleon's top general, is a good example . (his real name was Hovakim Muradian, he was an ethnic Armenian born in Karabagh)

 

Muahahahahha Murat an ethnic albanian!!!! Marshall Joachim Murat was a frenchman. I like those greeks, italians and whatsoever claiming french heroes because they have none. What next Joan of Arc was turk roflmao.

 

Joachim Murat born at labiastide fortuniere was as french as you can get. With a french surname and a french first name.

When Muslims are in the minority (as they are in America, Britain, India) the message is always "Let us live in peace with one another, for Islam is a religion of tolerance and understanding." Then, once Islam has spread throughout the country, the message suddenly changes to "Anyone who stands against the Prophet is worthy of death!"

Murat/Murad is also used by Turks and Armenians. Muradian is still a popular last name among Armenians.

Armenian Survival, where did you get that information? Wikipedia says that he was born to Pierre Murat-Jordy and Jeanne Loubi�res.

Originally posted by azimuth Originally posted by the kid When Muslims are in the minority (as they are in America, Britain, India) the message is always "Let us live in peace with one another, for Islam is a religion of tolerance and understanding." Then, once Islam has spread throughout the country, the message suddenly changes to "Anyone who stands against the Prophet is worthy of death!" you better continue your discussion about the false Quran against the Bible thread you started and never showed up since. and about this post as most of your posts its false statment and a propaganda.

I tend to agree with what he is saying and I find groups like CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations) a threat to our constitution and free speech. I am sure they would like to make it a hate crime to criticize Islam in anyway in the U.S. As an American it is my right to criticize any belief system or political viewpoint. In Australia it is a hate crime to criticize Islam, even from their Holy books. Even in a church setting you cannot criticize them at all or you can face a stiff fine and jail sentence. As Islam grows in America they will fight for more political influence and even eventually try to push Sharia law on the majority. I do not think it will happen real soon, but if they keep growing and outnumber non-Muslims it is a big possibility. If you look at Sudan, Indoneasia, Chad, Nigeria, Pakistan you can see, with current events, what the kid says it true.

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl Originally posted by erci Murat?    Yes Murat is as french a name as you can get.  Many french names end with a consonant (especially t , y, c and d). And God, Murat in french has nothing to do with whatever Murat in Turkey. Murat in french is pronounced as Mu-raa

I'm glad it's got nothing to do with Turkish Murat.never heard of french one tho

Joachim Murat, whose true name was Hovakim Muradian, left together with his father, who supplied Karabakhian racehorses to Russia, for Moscow, then Austria, Germany and at last he came to France. They were Armenians, originally from Karabakh, who travelled and eventually lived in France.

Even Naploeon's bodyguard was an Armenian...a man named Rostan. Rostan was born in Tbilisi, Georgia. At 9 years of age he was kidnapped and sent to Egypt, where he was sold to one of the local rich people, who in turn gave him as a present to Napoleon.

It is not uncommon to have a general of a nation not actually be of that nation's ethnicity. As previously stated, many top Russian generals were in fact Armenian.

Originally posted by Queztalcoatl Muahahahahha Murat an ethnic albanian!!!! Marshall Joachim Murat was a frenchman. I like those greeks, italians and whatsoever claiming french heroes because they have none. What next Joan of Arc was turk roflmao.

Next thing youre gonna tell me is Charles Aznavour is a Frenchman and not Armenian . Afterall, his first name is as French as you can get. (Charles isnt his real first name btw)

Its very possible that he designated himself as Joachim Murat because he was in France. Hovakim Muradian---Joachim Murat. French version of an Armenian name. Some Armenians alter their names to fit into the national profile of whichever nation they live in. Many Armenians in Russia have their last names ending in '-ov', rather than the Armenian '-ian'. Same last name, except for the ending. Murat happens to be a first name used by Armenians (as well as Turks), as well as a very common Armenian last name in Muradian/Muratian  (pronounced Mooradian/Mooratian)

I could be wrong, im not bashing your info. But it says he was born in Karabakh, and his father was even there. I dont know many Frenchman in the late 1700's who were from Karabakh.

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Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival Joachim Murat, whose true name was Hovakim Muradian, left together with his father, who supplied Karabakhian racehorses to Russia, for Moscow, then Austria, Germany and at last he came to France. They were Armenians, originally from Karabakh, who travelled and eventually lived in France. Even Naploeon's bodyguard was an Armenian...a man named Rostan. Rostan was born in Tbilisi, Georgia. At 9 years of age he was kidnapped and sent to Egypt, where he was sold to one of the local rich people, who in turn gave him as a present to Napoleon. It is not uncommon to have a general of a nation not actually be of that nation's ethnicity. As previously stated, many top Russian generals were in fact Armenian. Originally posted by Queztalcoatl Muahahahahha Murat an ethnic albanian!!!! Marshall Joachim Murat was a frenchman. I like those greeks, italians and whatsoever claiming french heroes because they have none. What next Joan of Arc was turk roflmao. Next thing youre gonna tell me is Charles Aznavour is a Frenchman and not Armenian . Afterall, his first name is as French as you can get. (Charles isnt his real first name btw) Its very possible that he designated himself as Joachim Murat because he was in France. Hovakim Muradian---Joachim Murat. French version of an Armenian name. Some Armenians alter their names to fit into the national profile of whichever nation they live in. Many Armenians in Russia have their last names ending in '-ov', rather than the Armenian '-ian'. Same last name, except for the ending. Murat happens to be a first name used by Armenians (as well as Turks), as well as a very common Armenian last name in Muradian/Muratian  (pronounced Mooradian/Mooratian) I could be wrong, im not bashing your info. But it says he was born in Karabakh, and his father was even there. I dont know many Frenchman in the late 1700's who were from Karabakh.

Umm... can you provide a source here. I've noticed that this is a common case amongst marginal ethnicities to try to appropriate other people's history.  How could Joachim be Armenian if his parents were French?




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