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    Posted: 08-Aug-2005 at 13:35

So which Monarch had the longest reign ever???

From what i found until now Louis XIV reigned from 1643 to 1715 (72 years) but its likely someone must have reigned longer. 

Louis XIV (Louis-Dieudonn) (September 5, 1638 C September 1, 1715) reigned as King of France and King of Navarre from May 14, 1643 until his death.

From women, Empress Kojun of Japan seems to be ahead with 75 years totally.

Her Imperial Majesty Empress Kojun of Japan was born Princess Kuni Nagako (jp: ߃mŮ kuni no miya nagako jo) (March 6, 1903 - June 16, 2000). She was the consort of the Showa Emperor, and mother of HIM the Emperor Akihito.

The Empress Nagako, known posthumously as Empress Kjun (㴾ʺ kjun kg), was the longest lived empress consort (kgo) in Japanese history. She was Crown Princess from 26 January 1924 to 25 December 1926, Empress from 26 December 1925 to 7 January 1989, and Empress Dowager from 7 January 1989 to 16 June 2000.

Any ideas for longer reigns???

 

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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2005 at 14:46
Pharaoh Pepi II reigned for a whopping 94 years! I believe he was in the 5th or 6th dynasty...
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According to tradition, Pepi II was the last ruler of Egypt's 6th Dynasty, and in fact the last significant ruler of the Old Kingdom prior to the onset of what Egyptologists call the Fist Intermediate Period. We are told that his reign of possibly 94 (some Egyptologist believe 64) years was the longest in ancient Egyptian history.  He seems to have come to the throne at about the age of six, and would therefore have lived until the age of one hundred.  However, because of the onset of the First Intermediate Period, the latter part of his reign was probably ineffectual, perhaps at least somewhat due to his advanced age. Both the Oxford History of Ancient Egypt and Peter A. Clayton, have his reign lasting from 2278 until 2184 BC. 
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Longest Reigning European Monarchs

Monarch Reign (Years)
Louis XIV, King of France 1643-1715 (72)
Franz Joseph I, Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary 1848-1916 (68)
Victoria, Queen of Great Britain, Empress of India 1837-1901 (63)
Jaime I, King of Aragn 1213-1276 (63)
Christian IV, King of Denmark 1588-1648 (60)
George III, King of Great Britain and Hanover 1760-1820 (60)
Louis XV, King of France 1715-1774 (59)
Harald I, King of Norway 872-930 (58)
Alfonso VIII, King of Castile 1158-1214 (58)
James VI (I), King of Scots (later England) 1567-1625 (58)
Wilhelmina, Queen of Netherlands 1890-1948 (58)
Henry III, King of England 1216-1272 (56)
Elizabeth II, Queen of Great Britain 1952- (53+)
Eric III, King of Norway 1389-1442 (53)
Friedrich III, Holy Roman Emperor 1440-1493 (53)
Haakon VII, King of Norway 1905-1957 (52)
Gorm the Old, King of Denmark 900-950 (50)
Heinrich IV, Holy Roman Emperor 1056-1106 (50)
Edward III, King of England 1327-1377 (50)



This list includes only rulers of empires and kingdoms.

Afonso I of Portugal reigned 73 years (1112-1185), but began his reign as a Count; he became the first King of Portugal in 1139, reigning with that title for 46 years.

Nikola I of Montenegro reigned 58 years (1860-1918), but began his reign as a Prince; he became the first and last King of Montenegro in 1910, reigning with that title for 8 years.

Ivan IV ("the Terrible") of Russia reigned 51 years (1533-1584), but began his reign as Grand Duke of Moscow; he became the first Tsar of Russia in 1547, reigning with that title for 37 years.

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For Persia, it was Shapur the Great who reigned from 309 to 379 AD (70 years).
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2005 at 15:43
Semi-mythical king Arganthonios of Tartessos (in southern Spain) was proverbial for his long reign.

(from Wikipedia): According to Herodotus, Arganthonios ruled Tartessia as king for 80 years, from 630 BC to 550 BC. Much of this Tartessian dynasty is told in legends, so no one knows what part is actually historical. He is said by the Greeks to have lived for 120 years while others state that he lived a longer 150 years.

He's also supposed to have given 1.5 tons of silver to a Greek sailor named Koliaos for the construction of the wall of some Greek city (Miletus?) threatened by the Persians.


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  Quote Perseas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2005 at 19:06

I found another list with contestants...

we have Pepi II of Egypt, whose dates are not nailed
down that firmly but seem to have been 94 years mainly in the 23rd
century BC
...supposedly from age about 6 to about 100 as Decebal said also.

Other unclearly documented claims are those of:

 Musoma Kanjio(1856-1963) chiefship at his 8 in 1864 and held it for over 98 years, and

Minhti, king of the Burmese predecessor state of Arakan 1279-1374....earlier editions of the Guinness Book also noted almost certainly vastly inflated claims of 101 and 83 years for the 6th  Emperor Kan and 5th Emperor Ksh, Emperors of Japan.

Apart from them we have:

Raja Sawai Basavalinga I of Sundem: 1763 - 1843: 79 years +

Prince Heinrich XI of Reuss-Greiz: 17.3.1723 - 28.6.1800: 77 years 103
days (as Count until 12.5.1778)

Naik Madhoji Rao Nimbalkar of Phaltan: 7.12.1841 - 17.10.1916: 74
years 315 days

Maharaja Bhagwatsinhji of Gondal: 14.12.1869 - 10.3.1944: 74 years 87
days

Raja Bishan Chandra Jenamani of Rairakhol: 1825 - 1900: 74 years +

Pr. Georg I Wilhelm of Schaumburg-Lippe: 13.2.1787 - 21.11.1860: 73
years 250 days (as Count until 18.4.1807)

King Alfonso Henry of Portugal: 30.4.1112 - 6.12.1185: 73 years 220
days (as Count until 1140)

Grand Duke Karl Friedrich of Baden: 12.5.1738 - 10.6.1811: 73 years 29
days (as Margrave until 25.7.1806)

King Louis XIV of France: 14.5.1643 - 1.9.1715: 72 years 110 days

Prince John II of Liechtenstein: 12.11.1858 - 11.2.1929: 70 years 91
days

Grand Duke Carl August of Saxe-Weimar und Eisenach: 28.5.1758 -
14.6.1828: 70 yrs 17 days (as Duke until 21.4.1815)

Maharaja Jagatjit Singh of Kapurthla: 1877 - 1948: 70 years +

Honourable mentions:

King Louis II of Etruria: reigned 27.5.1803 - 10.2.1807; died
16.4.1883: 79 yrs 324 days later

Duke Bernard II of Saxe-Meiningen: reigned 24.12.1803 - 20.9.1866;
died 3.12.1882: 78 years 344 days later

King Michael of Romania: reigned 20.7.1927 - 8.6.1930 & 6.9.1940 -
30.12.1947; living 7.1.2002: 74 years 171 days later

Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands: reigned 23.11.1890 - 4.9.1948;
died 28.11.1962: 72 years 5 days later

Emperor Bao Dai of Annam: reigned 8.1.1926 - Aug 1945; died 31.7.1997:
71 years 204 days later

Queen Isabella II of Spain: reigned 29.9.1833 - 30.9.1868; died
9.4.1904: 70 years 193 days later

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For Mexico, Porfirio Diaz. He ruled the country as President over 35 years.
None of the 10 aztec emperors reigned that long.
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Originally posted by Decebal

Pharaoh Pepi II reigned for a whopping 94 years! I believe he was in the 5th or 6th dynasty...

 

Hardly believeable considering in those time life expectancy wasn't higher than 35 years.



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Originally posted by Maju

Semi-mythical king Arganthonios of Tartessos (in southern Spain) was proverbial for his long reign.

(from Wikipedia): According to Herodotus, Arganthonios ruled Tartessia as king for 80 years, from 630 BC to 550 BC. Much of this Tartessian dynasty is told in legends, so no one knows what part is actually historical. He is said by the Greeks to have lived for 120 years while others state that he lived a longer 150 years.

He's also supposed to have given 1.5 tons of silver to a Greek sailor named Koliaos for the construction of the wall of some Greek city (Miletus?) threatened by the Persians.

 

LOL, what a nonsense if you tell me. Typical exaggeration of the ancient time.

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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2005 at 22:31
Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl

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Pharaoh Pepi II reigned for a whopping 94 years! I believe he was in the 5th or 6th dynasty...

 

Hardly believeable considering in those time life expectancy wasn't higher than 35 years.



How do you know? It's clear that while life expectancy has improved overall since the Middle Ages some of the longest living people in the world are rural people with no or almost no medical care, so you shouldn't assume things so lightly. And things could be better in earlier times, we just don't have enough data to judge.

Also one thing is life expentacy, which may have improved and another thing is the maximum life span which hasn't changed. Maybe more much people celebrate their 80th birthday nowadays but the ones that celebrate their 100th are about the same (in proportion).



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A lot of people seem to misunderstand what life expentancy means. When a historian says that the life expectancy of a time period is 35, it does not mean that nobody lived past the age of 35. It only means that many people died young. Many babies also died, and that brought life expectancy, which is an average, down. It would have been entirely possible for an ancient Egyptian man to have lived until he was 100.
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And Mithirades Eupator of Pontus ruled for 69 years.
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  Quote kotumeyil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2005 at 03:48
What about the longest reign of a dynasty? For example it is said that Ottomans reigned for 623 years, but I don't know if this is the longest...
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Lets not forget Queen Mab. She ruled part of Britain from at least the first millenia BCE up to the middle ages. And being as one day in Elfhame is one year in the rest of the world. We have to times her reign by 365.

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  Quote Raider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2005 at 05:43
I think the Capeting dinasty (987-1848 with some interruption) is the first. At least in Europe.
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Originally posted by Maju

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Originally posted by Decebal

Pharaoh Pepi II reigned for a whopping 94 years! I believe he was in the 5th or 6th dynasty...

 

Hardly believeable considering in those time life expectancy wasn't higher than 35 years.



How do you know? It's clear that while life expectancy has improved overall since the Middle Ages some of the longest living people in the world are rural people with no or almost no medical care, so you shouldn't assume things so lightly. And things could be better in earlier times, we just don't have enough data to judge.

Also one thing is life expentacy, which may have improved and another thing is the maximum life span which hasn't changed. Maybe more much people celebrate their 80th birthday nowadays but the ones that celebrate their 100th are about the same (in proportion).

 

 According to old people life were so much better in the past, the sky bluer, and the food cheaper and people live longer all that is just plain nonsense. In reality, people suffer from chronic malnutrition, were shorter, had a shorter life, even with ridiculous purchasing power. In truth as we advance the life expectancy keep increasing, some believe one day some human will be as old as 200 year old.

 

Actually dude are you familiar with the word science. By analysing the bones of people in ancient egypt you can actually tell if they were malnourished or not. in reality the people didn't quite died of hunger but more of malnutrition and that even the most wealthy and most have bad hygiene and would died of water-borne diseases as well tuberculosis. This was because those people have little understanding of how a diet work and how diseases are transmitted. For instance the longest living pharoahs all have tno teeth  at a very early age of 30. In ancient egyppt a 30 year old could pretty much be similar to a 60 year old nowadays.

 

Below is the age pyramid of the ancient egyptian, you'll notice only an extreme few made it to 70-80. 100 year old people would be like a very rare phenomenon. That's why I'm very sceptical that any king would live to 70 plus in such an early age.

 

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Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl

Originally posted by Maju

 
It's clear that while life expectancy has improved overall since the Middle Ages some of the longest living people in the world are rural people with no or almost no medical care, so you shouldn't assume things so lightly. And things could be better in earlier times, we just don't have enough data to judge.

Also one thing is life expentacy, which may have improved and another thing is the maximum life span which hasn't changed. Maybe more much people celebrate their 80th birthday nowadays but the ones that celebrate their 100th are about the same (in proportion).

In truth as we advance the life expectancy keep increasing, some believe one day some human will be as old as 200 year old.

You're missing Maju's point. You could have a 200-year-old human at a time when life expectancy was 18. Or life expectancy could be 90 and no-one live longer that 100.

Life expectancy is affected by medical and hygienic advances and the like. Maximum life span is largely genetic, it's unaffected by evolution (since living longer - past a certain age - doesn't increase the number of children), and so far we haven't done any serious genetic engineering in humans.

Actually dude are you familiar with the word science.

Maju appears to be. You seem to be unfamiliar with the concept.

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well i think living to 96 is not that weird and he was king of egypt  so you can consider that the 0.001% of that population life expectancy that time.

and Ramisses( spelling ) i think ruled for 60 years or so.

which is a good excuse for him to be considered God or something.

it will be weird when you go to some stories talking about someone rules for 20,000 years

i think that was the yellow king of china or something.

 

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Originally posted by kotumeyil

What about the longest reign of a dynasty? For example it is said that Ottomans reigned for 623 years, but I don't know if this is the longest...

I had read once Zhou Dynasty of China (1122 BC - 256 BC) was the longest.

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