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    Posted: 05-Sep-2004 at 08:10

Sumer/Korean/English

Annul/hanul/zeus

an/han/heaven

Gir/Gil/Road

Ra/Ro/"to"-indicative as in 'go "to" there'

Abi/Bo/father

Nim/Nim/one, dude, indicating someone

Bad/Bat/field

Na/Na/myself

Ge(Ge sounds like g in ground)/Ge(same as sumer)/3rd person indicating someone

Uhma (U as in oo as in moose)/Uhma (Uhm as in ummmm)/Mother

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Sumer, as Korean, has this transitive like characteristic:

Korean-Sumer/English

People-they very stupid-are/ These peoples are very stupid

as you see, the -they and -are are characteristics only seen on Korean, Sumer, Native american, and Manchu.

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Sudan= black headed person (Su=black(the word Sudan means black city) me=head rian=people).  Manchu, Korean, and native Americans all have black hair

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Sumerians called first "as".  This matches with ancient korean word for first "as".  Like laundry in those ages were divided into many sections.  The first one was called as-laundry.  Also, the bow you do on morning on a higher person was called asa.

The word Asia came from as, because it is the first place where sun starts.

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Everyone seems to want to link with Sumer in some way. 

Sumer/Korean/English

Annul/hanul/zeus

an/han/heaven

Gir/Gil/Road

Ra/Ro/"to"-indicative as in 'go "to" there'

Abi/Bo/father

Nim/Nim/one, dude, indicating someone

Bad/Bat/field

Na/Na/myself

Ge(Ge sounds like g in ground)/Ge(same as sumer)/3rd person indicating someone

Uhma (U as in oo as in moose)/Uhma (Uhm as in ummmm)/Mother

You can also find supposed vocabulary matches with such distinctive languages such as Turkish, Hungarian, and Lithuanian.

Sumer, as Korean, has this transitive like characteristic:

Korean-Sumer/English

People-they very stupid-are/ These peoples are very stupid

as you see, the -they and -are are characteristics only seen on Korean, Sumer, Native american, and Manchu.

What you describe is called agglunativity.  This is a characteristic of Uralic, Altaic, Caucasian, and Dravidian languages, as well as the ancient languages of Sumerian, Hurrian, Hattic, and Elamite.  This characteristic does not make them related, just as Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic languages are inflective language families, but are not really related.

Sudan= black headed person (Su=black(the word Sudan means black city) me=head rian=people).  Manchu, Korean, and native Americans all have black hair

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Sumerians called first "as".  This matches with ancient korean word for first "as".  Like laundry in those ages were divided into many sections.  The first one was called as-laundry.  Also, the bow you do on morning on a higher person was called asa.

The word Asia came from as, because it is the first place where sun starts.

The Sumerians did not call themselves "Sumerians".  This was the east Semitic Akkadian name for them.  They called themselves the sag-gi-ga, the "black-headed people" and their country Kiengir, the "land of the noble tongue". 



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Sumerians were Easter Islanders, OK?
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Sumerians where the children of the Lost Prophets, the survivors of Atlantis and where fathered by JFK, Elvis Presley, and Huey Long who transported back in time in Montezumas time machine with James Madison as their eunuch who played Elvis Costello songs like "Allison" on the boombox.  They each fathered a cild with Lizzie Borden and thats how the SUmerians were born!
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There are also many common basic words between Sumerian and Turkish; but I never claim that Sumerian and Turkic are related
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Well, Sumers were Altaic.  So were Turks and Koreans. 
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Sep-2004 at 02:24

     why do koreans like to link/relate/associate themselves with so many god know's who? do you guys feel really lonely outside or something? or do you have just too much time on your hands?

    there's like two or three other such threads already...need i say more?



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Well, Sumers were Altaic.  So were Turks and Koreans.

Two points.

1.  Sumerians were the result of a local ethnogenesis.

There is nothing, anthropologically, culturally, linguistically, and historically which link them to peoples known in much later history and in much more distant lands.  Nowhere, can their culture be traced any more remote in time than to the Kermanshah Culture (c. 7500-5600 BC) of western Iran.  The descendant culture appeared in central Mesopotamia, known as the Samarra Culture (c. 5700-4900 BC).  Later still, elements of this culture migrated south into southern Mesopotamia where the Ubaid Culture (c. 5300-3900 BC) took root.  It developed into the Uruk Culture (c. 3900-3100 BC).  It was during this time that the earliest pictographic writing developed (by c. 3500 BC), which developed into a proto-cuneiform script by the Jembat Nasr period (c. 3100-2900 BC), which became a fully developed cuneiform script in the Sumerian Early Dynastic Period (c. 2900-2300 BC) by about 2500 BC.  There was apparently no interruptions in the development of Sumerian civilization from its Neolithic past.

2.  Their language is not related to any other, living or dead.

Sumerian itself, although it shares the characteristic of being an agglutinative language like Turkish is nevertheless classed as a unique language within its own language family.  This is the virtually unaniminous judgement amongst linguists and, specifically, Sumerologists.

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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Sep-2004 at 13:56
Originally posted by babyblue

     why do koreans like to link/relate/associate themselves with so many god know's who? do you guys feel really lonely outside or something? or do you have just too much time on your hands?

    there's like two or three other such threads already...need i say more?

 

thats what happens when your a dinky little penninsula between to great and historical important countries....  sorry Korean guys, I just had to say it!

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Originally posted by Sharrukin

Two points.

1.  Sumerians were the result of a local ethnogenesis.

There is nothing, anthropologically, culturally, linguistically, and historically which link them to peoples known in much later history and in much more distant lands.  Nowhere, can their culture be traced any more remote in time than to the Kermanshah Culture (c. 7500-5600 BC) of western Iran.  The descendant culture appeared in central Mesopotamia, known as the Samarra Culture (c. 5700-4900 BC).  Later still, elements of this culture migrated south into southern Mesopotamia where the Ubaid Culture (c. 5300-3900 BC) took root.  It developed into the Uruk Culture (c. 3900-3100 BC).  It was during this time that the earliest pictographic writing developed (by c. 3500 BC), which developed into a proto-cuneiform script by the Jembat Nasr period (c. 3100-2900 BC), which became a fully developed cuneiform script in the Sumerian Early Dynastic Period (c. 2900-2300 BC) by about 2500 BC.  There was apparently no interruptions in the development of Sumerian civilization from its Neolithic past.

2.  Their language is not related to any other, living or dead.

Sumerian itself, although it shares the characteristic of being an agglutinative language like Turkish is nevertheless classed as a unique language within its own language family.  This is the virtually unaniminous judgement amongst linguists and, specifically, Sumerologists.

   

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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 20:06

Annul/hanul/zeus??? Hanul means sky not Zeus!

By the way, the word "in" means man in Russian. Is it a Mongolian influence? (Lenin = Man of Lena, Stalin = Man of Steel)



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Oh, great!    Stalin thought that he was Superman!!!
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