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    Posted: 01-Aug-2005 at 06:08

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Albania derives from the same Indo-European source as the name of the Alps, which also appears in the Scottish "Albainn", for "highlands". Alternatively, "Albania" may derive from the ancient Indo-European root *albho, meaning "white", which also gave the name Albion, the ancient name of England.

The first known occurance of the word Albanoi as the name of an Illyrian tribe in what is now north-central Albania goes back to 130 AD, in a work of Ptolemy. Albanopolis of the Albani is a place located on the map of Ptolemy and also named on an ancient family epitaph at Scupi (near Skopje) , which has been identified with the Zgrdhesh hill-fort near Kruja in northern Albania. Arbanon is likely to be the name of a district - the plain of the Mat has been suggested - rather than a particular place. An indication of movement from higher altitudes in a much earlier period has been detected in the distribution of place-names ending in -esh that appears to derive from the latin -enisis or -esis, between the Shkumbin and the Mat rivers, with a concentration between Elbasan and Kruja.

The term "Albanoi" may have been slowly spread to other Illyrian tribes until its usage became universal among all the Albanian people. According to the Albanian scholar Fak bey Konitza, the term "Albania" did not displace "Illyria" completely until the end of the fourteenth century. The word "Alba" or "Arba" seems to be connected with the town Arba (modern Rab, Croatia), in prehistoric times inhabited by the semi-Illyrian Liburnians, first mentioned in 360 BC.

Approximately a millennium later, some Byzantine writers used the words "Albanon" and "Arbanon" to indicate the region of Kruja. Under the Angevine rulers, in the 13th century, the names "Albania" and "Albanenses" indicated the whole country and all the population, as is demonstrated by the works of many ancient Albanian writers such as Budi, Blanco and Bogdano. We first learn of Albanians in their native land as the Arbanites of Arbanon in Anna Comnenas' account (Alexiad 4) of the troubles in that region caused by the Normans during the reign of her father Alexius I Comneus (1081-1118). In the History written in 1079-1080, Byzantine historian Michael Attaliates was first to refer to the Albanoi as having taken part in a revolt against Constantinople in 1043 and to the Arbanitai as subjects of the duke of Dyrrachium. The Italo-Albanians and the Albanian minorities still present in Greece have been known by different names over time: Arbnuer, Arbnor, Arbnesh, Arbresh, Arbresh.

There seems to be no doubt that the root alb- or arb- is earlier than shqip-, from which the modern name of the state (Shqipria) derives, a name which appears only in the time of the Turkish invasions. The Albanian name of the country, Shqipria, translates into English as "Land of the Eagles", hence the two-headed bird on the national flag and emblem, and because of the large presence of these animals in the mountainous zones of Albania.

Albanian names, like all nouns, appear under two forms "indefinite" and "definite". Hence Tiran/Tirana, Kruj/Kruja, Elbasan/Elbasani, Durrs/Durrsi The definite form is the equivalent of adding the article "the" in front of the noun. The common scholarly usage is to mention feminine names in the definite form, while the masculine are mentioned in the indefinite: Tirana, Kruja, Elbasan, Durrs, etc. But it is not always the case.

Since Albanian territories have long been under foreign rule, historical documents may mention Albanian place-names in their Greek, Latin, Italian (Venetian), Turkish, Slavic, or even French versions. For instance, Durrs has been called Dyrrachion, Dyrrachium, Durazzo, Dra, Drac and Duras.

Another source of confusion from historical sources may come from a transformation of "-n-" into "-r-", called "rhotacism", which took place in the Southern (Tosk) dialects and prevails in the literary language. Hence, the Greek/Latin "Avlona" which gave the Italian Valona" is now "Vlora".

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The Illyrian King List


Hyllus (The Star) whose death was recorded in 1225 B.C.

Bardylis - Usurper and founder of this dynasty. Reigned 385 to 358 BC.

Grabus - Attested in 356 BC.

Pleuratus - Testified in 344 BC.

Kleitus - Son of Bardylis. Attested in 335 BC.

Glaukias - Ruler of the Taulanti and then Illyrian king from 317 to 303 BC.

Bardylis II - Attested in 295 to 290 BC he was the son of Kleitus.

Monunius - Attested in 280 BC.

Mytilius- Attested about 270 BC.

Pleuratus - Founder of this dynasty. Attested in 260 BC pikepyetje.

Agron - Son of Pleuratus. Reigned from 250 to 230 BC.

Pinnes - Reigned from 230 to 217 BC.

Skerdilaidas - Reigned from 212 to 206 BC.

Pleuratus - Son of Skerdilaidas. Reigned from 205 to 180 BC.

Gentius - Son of Pleuratus. Ruled from 180 to 168 BC.





Illyrians were not the first people to identify their king with a god. Virtually every great civilization employed the device of deification of its kings. Other cultures, namely Sumerians, Egyptians based their entire fabric of their society around a king who was believed to be god on earth. Yet of all Indo European people only Hittites and Illyrians employed the -ili suffix to denote the sacred nature of a dead king. Since the custom of calling a king - sun god came from Asia Minor it is natural to believe that Hittites and Illyrians were the same people. The elevation of kings to the status of a god is the tip of the iceberg since Illyrians (Albanians) and Hittites share their basic Indo European inherited root words. Both Hittites and Illyrians use the epithet alba 'white' to classify the white race of indo Europeans. Thus Illyrians are Albanians. They are called Illyrians meaning godly people who worship the sun god while the epithet Albanian meant 'white people' in contrast to other colored races in Mesopotamia



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Hmmm.... There already is a topic on this....
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Who were Ilirians?



Ancient civilizations were organized around city states. People who lived around those city states were often named after the capital of their kingdom. Romans were initially called Latin but their name changed after their introduction of Romulus’ myth (the legendary founder of Rome) in the Etruscan capital of Alba Longa. Hittites were named after their capital Hattusas and their deified king was called Hattus-ili. Similarly Athenians were named the champion of their city, goddess Athena. Albanians (as one of innumerous Illyrian tribes) were named after their city state Albanopolis near a mountain called Alp 'mountain', Hittite alpa 'white'. The most spectacular name belonged to Dardanus (founder of Troy) because it is related to the myth of the Great Flood (which allegedly took place after the last ice age) hence it should be one of the oldest tribal names among Illyrians who like Greeks, Celts and Romans were obsessed with their divine ancestry. The origin of gods and myths of creation were not pure fantasy but instruments for survival. Ancient people were divided into two categories - those who were condemned to be slaves and those who were born to rule. Those people who failed to come up with a convincing divine lineage were often condemned to be slain, mutilated and exterminated. There was no mercy for godless ancestors. That is why Greeks embraced Hellen, Illyrians adored Hyllus and Romans worshiped Romulus. People even altered the myths, changed the names, ignored their real ancestors and abandoned inherited names to adopt new idols which were more fashionable at that time. It seems that the name Albania 'white' was not attractive enough to Albanians since it didn't carry any significant weight. Actually the descendants of Illyrians preferred another name - the imperial double headed eagle. Romans had always employed the single head eagle as their military ensign or standard. When Illyrian generals got elevated to the imperial throne they introduced the Hittite double headed eagle they had inherited from their Anatolian ancestors. (There is still a mountainous region in Albania called Hoti similar to ancient HATTI - the capital of Hittites.)



Hittites together with Persians probably borrowed the symbol of double headed eagle from an older civilization - Sumerian. Here there is the image of the double headed eagle at Persepolis - capital of the ancient Persian Empire..



The final proof that Illyrians had employed the double headed eagle before they introduced that symbol to Roman standards exists in the city of Sirkap (Pakistan). Along the main street of Sirkap, the ancient city, sits the Double-Headed Eagle Shrine.  Its original name is lost, but is now referred to as the double-Headed Eagle Shrine because of the bird bas-relief that adorns the arch (images two and three). The Double-Headed Eagle Shrine was built by Macedonian, Greek and Illyrian soldiers. Alexander the Great employed Illyrian and Greek troops in his campaign to India. 

The eagle was considered to be the sacred bird of Jupiter - the sky god among Indo Europeans.

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Just a couple of things I noticed.

Since Albanian territories have long been under foreign rule, historical documents may mention Albanian place-names in their Greek, Latin, Italian (Venetian), Turkish, Slavic, or even French versions. For instance, Durr�s has been called Dyrrachion, Dyrrachium, Durazzo, Dra�, Drac and Duras.

Interestingly enough, you conveniently forgot to mention the fact that this 'city' never had a recorded Albanian name that could be connected to the  ancient population.
Originally named Epidamnos by Hellinic colonists from Corinth and Corfu in approx. 670BC when they founded it. The Romans after conquering the area changed the name and moved the 'city' from it's original setting and situated it a couple of km. away.
The reason was that 'damnum' in Latin means 'hurt, harm, damage' so they believed it was a bad omen. While Pausanias mentions that the name derives from the city's founder, many consider the name to be given because of the cliffs near the city. Durrachio= du + rachi= 2 + 'backbone/hill.
Interestingly enough the name Durrazzo, obviously where Durres comes from wasn't used untill Stephan Dusan conquered the area in 13-something.

The most spectacular name belonged to Dardanus (founder of Troy) because it is related to the myth of the Great Flood (which allegedly took place after the last ice age) hence it should be one of the oldest tribal names among Illyrians who like Greeks, Celts and Romans were obsessed with their divine ancestry.

There is no connection among Dardanos of Troy born in Samothrace and the Dardani that roamed above Illyria. There is no serious historian to support this.
The final proof that Illyrians had employed the double headed eagle before they introduced that symbol to Roman standards exists in the city of Sirkap (Pakistan). Along the main street of Sirkap, the ancient city, sits the Double-Headed Eagle Shrine.  Its original name is lost, but is now referred to as the double-Headed Eagle Shrine because of the bird bas-relief that adorns the arch (images two and three). The Double-Headed Eagle Shrine was built by Macedonian, Greek and Illyrian soldiers. Alexander the Great employed Illyrian and Greek troops in his campaign to India. 

The eagle was considered to be the sacred bird of Jupiter - the sky god among Indo Europeans.


First of all when refering to Makedones and their religion, your source should have known that the correct name for the Hellinic God is either Zeus or Dias, Jupiter is the Roman equivalent/adoption of that God.

Second, from what I know the Illyrians worshipped a Sun-God that was later seen in the face of the Hellinic God Apollon and some female snake God and not Zeus/Dias. There is a myth about Zeus sending his 2 eagles to circle the world and they met in Delphoi which is why they called it 'omphalos ths ghs' = 'navel of  earth'.

So how do you and the author of this article claim this to be proof when Diodorus mentions a number of some 7000 combined Odrysians, Triballians and Illyrians lead by Parmenion in Alexander's troops??

Even if the entire 7000 of them were Illyrians, I find it incredibly hard if not impossible to claim that the shrine is proof that the symbol was Illyrian. Simply because not only were they outnumbered by the rest of the troops (Diodorus mentions some 30-35000 troops) but you seem to have forgotten that they were actually conquered by Philip. I don't really think a 'slave' has much of a say in constructing any kind of shrine.
Or we could look at Alexander being accused of 'proskunesis' which was adopting Persian customs. Knowing that this symbol has existed in the M.East since 5-6000 BC it could simply be an adoption of a Persian symbol and have nothing to do with the worship of Zeus at all.


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