Letters between Caliph Omar ibn Hattab and Yazdegerd III

Read again carefully. Who said 700 years of Arab rule? Read down again what I posted carefully:

Notice the use of "Islamic Heritage" and not Arab rule. I don't know how you missed that anyhow.

Ok, Im seriously considering if you at all read what we post. You said "While if you are extremely poor,then 1.5% is a lot to pay". You have to read what we post before you answer PrznKnectoid. You even asnwered me after quoting me on this:

How do you quote me and not read it by yourself!!

Now regarding that you "believe it is much more than 1.5%" that is up to you. Jizyah under Islamic jurisdiction cannot be over 2.5% which the what the Muslims have to pay for the government as a Zakah pay. If you are lucky as earlier Islamic rules with 1.5% then it is great. If you are charged 2.5% still as much as a Muslim pay. Jizyah Islamically cannot exceed that.

Read more about it here: http://www.answering-christianity.com/jizyah.htm

Now, did every single Islamic empire apply Jizyah fairly and according to the islamic law? that I cannot guarantee and is not my concern. After all, many Muslim empires charged their Muslim citizens even 10% taxes annually.!!!

Some Arabs hates their follow Arabs. Azeris in Azerbaijan hating some Iranians. What is your point here? Thank you anyhow for sharing that PERSONAL experience.

And then The Roman said: but we can offer you some cow blood, but Khalid refused and said: No I want a high quality Roman blood. How can you ship it?

Dude! seriously think before you post! I don't see this anywhere in any credible source so far. This is just a complete joke.

The site you provided doesn't link you directly to the quotes. Do you want me to go over the whole website to search for your own quotes?

Also in its front page, it says in wide bold font:

The author undoubtedly made some mistakes in the book and the sections above point out some of these mistakes. Therefore, it is important to read these sections before going onto the book.

http://www.swordofallah.com/front.htm

Yes, they did have a form of religion. Read again:

The earliest religion of the Mongols was shamanism, a set of beliefs practiced across North Asia for millennia and still practiced today in many communities

http://www.asia.msu.edu/eastasia/Mongolia/religion.html < that is an educational instittue specilized in the Mongolian history.

You need to pack up and explain more. I never heard of forcing women to cover up. Why is alcohol being illegal an issue to you? the US banned alchohol too in their late 1920's for the same reasons. No Muslim was ruling US that time

Also, before you start throwing accusation everywhere with no support, do you know Zoroastrian women have always suffered because of purity laws concerning menstruation. They were isolated during this period and could not touch fire or water since they were regarded as impure.!!! Do you know that? That is what I call an ill-treatment of women.

Well it was up to you. You can be a Muslim and you can be not. Many Christians in Palestine and Syria and Egypt are living there since 2000 years ago. No one told them or forced them to accept the Islamic culture. And what are you talking about? Don't you talk Persian? and Turks talk turks? don't you have a persian culture? Arent you free to dress like whatever you like? I think you are confused between Persian culture and Zoraostrian culture.  If you have problem with your Mullahs, dont' put your anger here. Find a proper thread.

I'm going to be away for couple days. That should give you more time to post something seroius and credible instead of the jokes above.

What is the relationship of Khawarizm and our discussion now? Or you just like to hear yourself talking?

My advice go read the post for the 4th time! and notice the figure 0. It is spelled Zero too, not a doughnut. Yes, that is zero meaning you pay nothing.

So far these are all allegations with no support. "Islam cultivate hatred"? Your ego is just what makes you blind here. Quran talks about a reward killing non-Muslims! I really doubt you are a Muslim as you claim. Anyhow, first I ask you to act as a mature person and bring evidance of your allegation. Second, I call on the moderator to follow up with your unsupported & repetitive  allegation.

I suggest you go and educate yourself more on history. The prophet was prosecuted for 13 years in Mecca and was attacked first by those Pagans you love. How peaceful you want him? evacuate Madinah and go spread the religion in the moutains maybe? Duh!

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I think you have a deep jelously that blinds you from rational. Anyhow, nothing you can do my friend. Iran is 98% Muslim and history does not go back. Keep crying because if you cry over your old persian history, i remind you it is called "history", so no point of crying over it.

Your point is that you have no point.  Are you sure you are ok?  I told you that this site does not give you those quotes and you instead of showing me what page exactly you got them from, you give me another site?  

So now you decided to add "Much" to your old post.  Here is what you typed.

an advise: you need to think first before you type. After contradicting yourself as above, you are not sticking with the topic too. You decided to throw allegation of women getting mistreated in Islam and I had to make you feel little pain with showing you the wonderful treatment they have in Zoroastrain. No wonder Islamic conquest were so easy in that part of the world.

Originally posted by PrznKonectoid Well if you couldn't pay you would be put into army to defend Muslims of which you weren't even one of or into slavery. And if you had very little you still payed a a portion of it, which was what I was getting. Now if you can't understand that...

Yes, that thing above you call a source, where did you learn this? Im just curious? So far, no Link, no reference.

Why would I take the extra step of providing wrong what you can't prove right? sounds to me a common sense.

Do you know they are considered people of the book because they have books sent from a divine called the bible and the torah? sounds more logical for sure than "their view coincide with Muhammad's"!!

How about if you spent more time in searching for links that support your argument than sarcacism. Focusing on me won't help your arguement just in case you dont know.

None of my or your business to classify them as true Muslims or not. At the end, I've seen fanatic Iranians who would die for the Mullah's speeches and they dont even do their simpliest worship duties.

Do you think that is a good excuse.? Sorry, I don't read what is not there. Very obvious. And if you are as you claim to be a Muslim, it should be easy for you to get those sources , right?

This is a fundemental part of the Zoroastrian belief. Even during the 17th century, (hundreds of years after Islamic conquest), they still do it:

"Tavernier in 17th century made remarks about the hardship Zoroastrian women suffered because of purity laws concerning menstruation. They were isolated during this period and could not touch fire or water since they were regarded as impure. The isolation would end by bathing and a minor feast."

Here, educate yourself more on Zoroastrians http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:T-13ij-wvDEJ:www.iranch amber.com/religions/articles/zoroaster_zoroastrians_in_iran. php+Zoroastrian+treat+to+women,+not+to+touch+fire&hl=en

By the way, the link is direct (unlike yours which we cannot find) and it is the chamber of commerce of Iran

So, you think it is dispelled? Then prove it. Very simple. Welcome to this forum. Proof Proof Proof!

You are free to understand it as you like. However my comment was not saying that Persia was easy for Islamic conquest because Persians are inferior (which i have no clue how do you hit this assumption). Islamic conquest of Persia was easy because of what we already discussed earlier and you might have seem to forget everytime:

"The Islamic conquest was aided by the material and social bankruptcy of the Sassanids; the native populations had little to lose by cooperating with the conquering power. Moreover, the Muslims offered relative religious tolerance and fair treatment to populations that accepted Islamic rule without resistance." < By the way, this is from your article too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_Iran