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    Posted: 16-Jul-2005 at 13:53

hi everyone, as you know, finland very pretty country in turanian region. what do you know that country? what is their culture?

I know i know, finnish guys doesnt like sounds that related between turkish and finnish, because of turkish people is not high educated people.

 
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OMG, this is going too far!
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so far ive heard some turks claim that everyone from korea to bulgaria, and now finland,  is a turk...

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Listen guys, JiNanRen/Strategos, you don't have to actually reply...
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yes, including finland, because of i am pan vowel harmonist.

 

 
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Originally posted by Yiannis

Listen guys, JiNanRen/Strategos, you don't have to actually reply...


You're right, i stirred up more trouble by replying, should've just ignored it
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Originally posted by strategos

so far ive heard some turks claim that everyone from korea to bulgaria, and now finland,  is a turk...

 the russians took all north asia wich in real it belongs to the turks and the mongolians tribes and they claim thats its or russians ! hans of the so called china took inner mongolia , eastern turkistan , tibet and manchuria which they have no rights ever but they claim that its or them ... so whats wrong with you people !!!

 just like the guy said ... you dont have to replay because its a fact.
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Originally posted by JiNanRen

Originally posted by Yiannis

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You're right, i stirred up more trouble by replying, should've just ignored it
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If you say FIns are Hungarians, then ill maybe should believe it (because of their language groups), but THAT i cant believe it, sorry...

Or explain it with some proofs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jul-2005 at 14:03

so far ive heard some turks claim that everyone from korea to bulgaria, and now finland,  is a turk...

Bulgarians' deep origins are Turkic, we dont claim it, history says so. And we arent any related to Koreans, where did you get it from? Dont generalize people.

Listen guys, JiNanRen/Strategos, you don't have to actually reply...

I agree.

Finns, like Magyars, form the finno-Ugric group of Uralics, an the Uralics form the western group of Ural-Altaics. So they are related with Turks but they arent Turks, and they have nothing to do with Turan.


 
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If my opinion is welcome, I will give it.

To say that Finland is a Turkic country is certainly way too far. Not many Turkic people have blonde hair and blue eyes, do they? As for linguistics, Finland is one of Europe's mysteries as it resembles neither Slavic, Germanic or Norse, the neighboring languages. I do not speak Turk, so perhaps there is in fact traces of Turkic words in their language. So, if you were to say that Finns were linguistically Turkic, I would be inclined to agree. Finns are definately not ethnic Turks.
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It is like Germans and Persians...

Turks and Finns are from two different branches of Ural Altaic tree.

Though I have never heard of Koreans to be in Ural Altaic branch.

And BTW, having a Turkic root does not mean to be Turkic.

Bulgarians have Turkic roots but they have changed, became Slavized.

As far as I know Koreans are not even in Altaic branch. Turks, Mongols and Tunguz people form the Altaic branch.

Though I am not sure whether there is a significant difference between Mongols and Turks or not in the middle ages.



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I don't think Turks are lesser educated than any other peoples and I don't think Finland is more Turkish than any other European country.

If you ask similarities in old Finnish culture and Siberian culture I would tell you that old Finns or Karelians practiced bear festivals and other shamanistic rituals very similar to their Siberian friends.
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There is a basis, as I have heard, that there is a slight relation between turcik and the finno-hungric languages. I haven't heard such about the bloodline.

And don't forget the Estonians in your depictions, they don't like being left out, my girlfriend always nags about that.
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Not by bloodline maybe, but linguistically
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i know this is kinda off-topic, but why are there so many turks on this forum?
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turks are very educated and even better , very interested in history which you dont see too often  in america.  sad but true!
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Agreed,
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