Iranian Military

To beat the United States, you need aerial superiority and, as I have just discovered, Iran is barely a hegemon. There will never be another draft as the president who would instate one would not last very long. It looks like Iran will need a few more decades before it can return to the glory it deserves.

Zagros:

You are proud of your country, no doubt, but a few ballistic weapons systems, and some obsolescent aircraft and tanks would not bode well for a confrontation.  Neither would a nuclear device...that is probably the least valuable asset the Iranian military could possess.

The "bomb" is easy; the delivery systems are not, and an aerial delivery would seem unlikely as that would be the first capability taken out.  An attack of this type would result in retaliation far more serious than closing the Straits of Hormuz for awhile.

The U.S. has its own oil fields and strategic reserve of oil, as well as access to supplies in Latin America, the North Sea and Nigeria.  Closing the outlet from the Gulf would cripple Iran, set back your continuing development, make innumerable enemies for you, and gain you nothing.  The West would pay higher prices for fuel for awhile....not such a disaster.

The tone of your post was a little tough, just be careful with your wishes lest some of them come true.  You do have a great laugh (), and I hope a sense of humor.

    

 

 

IMHO, the Pasdaran can't be any better than Iraqi Republican Guard, it's capabilities is way too overrated.

okay the north korean missiles are just iranian proto-types. There are about dozens of iranian military scientists in N korea assisting them. Basically the iranians are testing their technology in north korea and then perfecting them in iran with "Shahabs". Iran has already upgraded its shahab 3 missile with solid fuel engine and has a range of 2000 - 2500? km that can reach the middle of europe, they are also developing shahab 4 which can reach London (i say they probably have made several prto-types). They have made them so they cant be destroyed by american Patriots or israeli "needle missles".

if iran is attacked, iraqi shias and afghanis are going to create so much trouble for americans. You think americans have been triumpht in both countries. please, if it wasnt for iran, both afghanistan and iraq would be graveyards for american and british soldiers.

lets not forget hizbollah, with iranian made drones can penetrate deep in israeli terrotory.

I almost forgot, iran has designed and manufactured its own fighter aircrafts. one of them which is "Azarakhsh". iran has pilotless drones and also is in deep work for stealth bombers, there are rumores that iran bought the technology for stealth bombers from russia. and i think iran will launch its own spy satellite in few years.

If the US had faced any form of spirited resistance from the Iraqi Army, taking every town would have been like taking Fallujah which is even now not fully under government, nevermind, US control. revolutionary guards are not conventional infantry, by the way, and are not comparible to the republican guards - the pasdaran have branches of every sort.  I fhte US wants to attack they will not be able to defeat the Iranian army before they do so, like they did with Iraq.

 

the primary factor of delay was hardly the Iraqi army but rather logistics

Originally posted by Zagros Purya Iran has the brainpower definately, just not the finance to move things along quickly enough.

I totally agree! it always amazes me that the Persians can use refurbished British/American junk as basis and develop them into modern indigenous weapon system like the Zulfiqar and Azarakhsh

However what i do have doubts in is the raw power of the Iranian conventional military.  I don't know if it can stop quick Israeli pre-emptive strikes at Iran's strategic targets like missile production/operational bases, nuclear facilities, bomber bases, or assassination plots etc. etc.  I think the IDF can literally decapitate the brains of the Iranian regime and effectively contain Iran's missile capabilities and destroy its nuclear/chemical/biological facilities.

Conventionally the Iranian military is nothing special at all, it is still largely stuck in the 70s/80s.  However, such a decapitation is impossible unless a full scale and competely ruthless conventional invasion is mounted and no country is willing to take the economic risk of such an adventure nor the will.

Israel could easily rebuff any conventional invasion mounted by any army within a 2000 mile radius.

 

Look, no one is saying the Iranian military is "all dat" and its airforce would fall out of the sky like flies against the high tech powers, but Iran has devised such a strategy that a war against it would not be won in the air, Iran has no delusions over its military prowess like Saddam which at the least is 100 times more powerful than Saddam's and its caution, prudence and intelligence is what makes Iran a difficult customer.

This thread is just an analysis, no need to make mocking and ignorant remarks.

Speaking of AWACS, did Israel seel the tech to China?

hmm, does China have any indigenous fighter/bombers in teh pipeline? I am really surprised that nothing prominent has yet emerged. Correct me if I am wrong.

Personally I think that Iran, Russia, China and India as well as the Central Asian Republics should form a new Axis to balance the flagrant Western exploitation of the world.