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are there any pechenegs left?

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    Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 10:09
id heard that the szekely of romania/hungary might be descendents of petchenegs, and that a few groups in the ukraine might be as well.  any truth to this?
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  Quote Aygucu Tonyukuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 10:28
Ggauz Turks in Bulgaristan, Greece, Moldovia, Romania, Turkey, Lithuania, Uktrain and Russia are descendants of Petchenegs.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 10:47
Yeah, and Turkish popstar Tarkan also has Pecheneg origins.
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  Quote Jagatai Khan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 11:41

Yeah, and Turkish popstar Tarkan also has Pecheneg origins.

hmm? I hadn't know this.

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  Quote Kenaney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2005 at 12:16

Ive heard that Tarkan's family whas a strong family in earliyer times, Tevetlioglu's.

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  Quote Aygucu Tonyukuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Jul-2005 at 18:52
Originally posted by Kenaney

Ive heard that Tarkan's family whas a strong family in earliyer times, Tevetlioglu's.

Dr. Fethi Tevetoglu, the famous military doctor and Turkish nationalist, panturkist (3 Mays'ta yarglananlardan) is uncle of Tarkan.
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  Quote Raider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jul-2005 at 04:54

 

There is a lot of theory anout the origin of the szkely people, but they are not related to the pechenegs. The pechenegs were a distinct group in the Kingdom.

Pecheneg territories in the Hungarian Kingdom:

http://www.mek.oszk.hu/01900/01954/html/index797.html



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  Quote Heraclius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jul-2005 at 08:58

 The Pechenegs were heavily defeated by a united Byzantine-cuman army in 1061 and again by the Cumans 3 years later, then in 1091 Alexius I practically annihilated the Pechenegs. So id think the numbers of decendents of the Pechenegs would be minimal at best.

 After that they were largely absorbed by Bulgars and Magyars from what I know.

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  Quote giani_82 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jul-2005 at 09:58
Yeah, pechenegs alongside many nomadic tribes kept close diplomatical relations with the ex-nomadic tribes of the Bulgarians and Magyar. That eased their absorbtion into the countries of these nations.
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Yes, there are. Read my paper "Origin of the Surname Padjan" at Scribd.
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  Quote yomud Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2013 at 06:57
Originally posted by jpadjan

Yes, there are. Read my paper "Origin of the Surname Padjan" at Scribd.
the suffix of jan  can come with so many name  you cant take padjan as pechenegs

pech in turkmen means
Heater . pechenegs is very likely to be a turkmen word yet i cant translate it
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  Quote jpadjan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2013 at 07:52
Thank you for your input. Based on what you have said, it is clear that you haven't read the whole paper and thought long enough about everything in it. If you had, you would have perhaps discovered your mistake in the conclusion you have arrived at and would not have posted your comment. But thank you anyway for checking out my paper.
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