Ancient Armies

What is with this order?

1.Rome

2.Persia

3.Greece

4.China

Hello, are we forgetting who invented gunpowder? Aside for the fact that Chineese army was about 20-30 times bigger then the Roman, this alone would have swayed the odds in their favour.

Persian army was on top while it was led by a master strategist Cyr, after his death it lost to Greeks who were outnumbered 5:1.

The Chinese had superior logistics and technology, as well as a greater supply of manpower, over any of these other civilizations.

allthough...

Rome had a large ammout of displine, and organisation. If the chinese attacked rome, rome would win. If rome attacked china, chine would win.

Hey MR ROME,

you wathced too much TV, what the TV doesnt tell you is Persians beated Romans ass several times,

not to say romans beated persians, they did, but to say romans could beat anyone, is B.S

 read this article

http://www.historynet.com/mhq/blromespersianmirage/

Persians hands down, or at least under the effective leadership of Kuroush or Dariush.

People do not understand the actual scope of what these guys did. Kuroush was the first to create a super-empire! Sure others did, but they followed in his footsteps.

Also when Dariush ascended the Throne, almost every satrap revolted, he didn't even have a loyal home. But he won every province back !! On top of that Dariush expanded into Scythia, Thrace, a large part of Greece (even though the Greeks are depicted as victors by their biased  historians, the Persians did win many battles), as well as parts of India.

The persians, with either Kuroush or Dariush at the helm, could take on anyone. 

 Do you and us a favour, give it up already

ohhhhh.....Peleas ! that is such rubish hhhh.....

The Romans could win all this petfull aponents ....but for what?

they really didn't need more land they allready had an empire as big as the known world why should they lose more soldiers and man to conquer more useless land?

they didn't conquerd the german tribe's to the north beacuse they didn't invide to much and the roman army from time to time did campigns in the north but just to kill some tribs so they will not try to invied.....

if Rome really but really needed thes waste lands they could easly crash all the berabarians...

and the huns had alot of victorys at first only beacuse the roman army and leadership was weak at the time...if some strong leader like Giulio Cesare were agains Atila....the huns would have been detroyed...

hak...even if i were in control things would look much diffrently in Europ

Actually, Roman army did not carried the same armour and shield every time. They wore Plates, Chain mail, and sometimes even fought without armour, especially after Marius Reforms, there were many "Little" generals that they had no enough money to support all those armours, sword, shields and pilum, and also helmet. 

I do not wanna say that Roman army was weak, it was, then it couldnt invade so much land, but it was not every time in the same "cloth" and discipline: