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    Posted: 06-Jul-2005 at 13:42

hello responding to this person who believes there is no
connection between latin and greek.
magna graecia {little greece} or italy was a greek colony and
remained so through the pagan roman empire and even during
the greco roman era of constantinople numerous southern
italian cities, calabresi, sicilians , bari ravenna etc etc were
allgreco roman cities who's inhabitants spoke greek until
norman invasions which changed the the structure of greco
roman society in italy.
so when we talk about latin there are two forms
ancient latin{which is very similar to greek}
medieval latin which is more merovingian or nordic because of
barbarian conquests around 10th century italy.
when the last greco roman city fell in italy around 10t h century
bari--roman civilisation finally died in italy but continued in the
east in antollia and polis constantinople.
the renaissance can be coined as early as 1204 when
crusaders and venetians re educated themselves with the
relics they sacked from the queen of ciites constantinople.

all primary resources talk of roman greeks as synonomous
entites even if they formed different tribes of latin and hellene
respectively --they had a shared culture under the republic

so know that rome was a greek city and i could not care less for
the elgin marbles--but care for our christian holy relics stolen
from constantinople in 1204 -this is more important.

roman society claimed its universal jurisdiction of european
people of all races. we could all claim to it. but respect it
mediterranean roots and its fathers
strategos romanos


the renaissance was the re emergence of greek culture in italy.
it came when refugees from constantinople migrated to italy
and taught the italians craft sculpture, literature etc.


medieval



Originally posted by hugoestr

Here is a reference to text that explain the
differences between Latin and Greek.

Latin didn't grow out of Greek. They are two separate
descendents of Proto-Indo-European. See Andrew L. Sihler, A
New Comparative Grammar of Greek and Latin, (New York &
Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1995), which is an extensive
rewrite of Carl D. Buck, A Comparative Grammar of Greek and
Latin, (Chicago, 1952), updated to include Myceneaean
sources. Buck is still worthwhile though, especially for the
sections on the fundamentals of historical linguistics (pp. 35-
63).



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Here is a description of the book:
Description
Like Carl Darling Buck's Comparative Grammar of Greek and
Latin (1933), this book is an explanation of the similarities and
differences between Greek and Latin morphology and lexicon
through an account of their prehistory. It also aims to discuss
the principal features of Indo-European linguistics. Greek and
Latin are studied as a pair for cultural reasons only; as
languages, they have little in common apart from their Indo-
European heritage. Thus the only way to treat the historical
bases for their development is to begin with Proto-Indo-
European. The only way to make a reconstructed language like
Proto-Indo-European intelligible and intellectually defensible is
to present at least some of the basis for reconstructing its
features and, in the process, to discuss reasoning and
methodology of reconstruction (including a weighing of
alternative reconstructions). The result is a compendious
handbook of Indo-European phonology and morphology, and a
vade mecum of Indo-European linguistics--the focus always
remaining on Greek and Latin. The non-classical sources for
historical discussion are mainly Vedic Sanskrit, Hittite, and
Germanic, with occasional but crucial contributions from Old
Irish, Avestan, Baltic, and Slavic.


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magna grecia means big greece, not little
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Originally posted by romanosstrategos

this reply is directed against the austrian guy with his name
komnenos.
these words spoken on this page are the truth.
rome was a greek city. there is too much evidence for this.
germans and austrlians have an unusual fascination with greek
and byzantium history.



Welcome, romanos strategos, and I can't express in words how glad I am that you joined and gave us another lecture on the greatness of Greek culture. That is exactly what we needed!
I thought for a moment that I might answer your post, but then I realised that it was probably better to let it speak for itself.

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Why do people use my name, there was a stratego's, and now romanosstrategos, i thinkl theres only room for one around here

 



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Be happy that people try and imitate you - it is the maximum honour
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Hah, maybe some Menippo's or Romennipos will pop up too.

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LOL - I really hope so - then I can offend people and someone else will get the blame
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This goes for the guy who comments when he doesn't know what he is talking about:


Read the thread carefully, and then contribute.

hello responding to this person who believes there is no
connection between latin and greek.
magna graecia {little greece} or italy was a greek colony and
remained so through the pagan roman empire and even during
the greco roman era of constantinople numerous southern
italian cities, calabresi, sicilians , bari ravenna etc etc were
allgreco roman cities who's inhabitants spoke greek until
norman invasions which changed the the structure of greco
roman society in italy.
so when we talk about latin there are two forms
ancient latin{which is very similar to greek}
medieval latin which is more merovingian or nordic because of
barbarian conquests around 10th century italy.
when the last greco roman city fell in italy around 10t h century
bari--roman civilisation finally died in italy but continued in the
east in antollia and polis constantinople.
the renaissance can be coined as early as 1204 when
crusaders and venetians re educated themselves with the
relics they sacked from the queen of ciites constantinople.

all primary resources talk of roman greeks as synonomous
entites even if they formed different tribes of latin and hellene
respectively --they had a shared culture under the republic

so know that rome was a greek city and i could not care less for
the elgin marbles--but care for our christian holy relics stolen
from constantinople in 1204 -this is more important.

roman society claimed its universal jurisdiction of european
people of all races. we could all claim to it. but respect it
mediterranean roots and its fathers
strategos romanos


the renaissance was the re emergence of greek culture in italy.
it came when refugees from constantinople migrated to italy
and taught the italians craft sculpture, literature etc.






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