Iranian Huns and the Ghaljay Afghans

Yeah the  Hephtalites could not have just been wiped out, they were dispersed and it is very probable that the Hepthalites made a dent into the Pashtun ethnic makeup because they were said in the same breath as the Tukharians. 

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The Khilji being Turks has been identified by Muslim sources.  But the Muslim sources also mentions them with the same breath as the Tukharians, which we all know, is an Indo-European tribe that predated the Turks.   The probably scenario is that they were Hunnified, and later Turkified, and today - Pashtunized.

 

Originally posted by Aryan Khadem I wonder why regardless of archaeological and DNA evidence do people disregard the Term Iranian tribes. As for Afghani's well lets say this Afghanistan was formed in 1893 with the help of the british who were carving up Iran to help stop the Russians getting to India.... There is no such thnig as Afhghani's only Iranians,Persians are just one of the many Iranian tribes and peoples. read my posts on slavs...... This is also backed up by DNA analysis. If you dispute it then don't leave your opinion back it up with something.... Try to show some smarts and think outside you nationalists box please people and look at evidence, if you really disagree then back it up with sources and bibliographys etc

Are you speaking to me or somebody else?

As for Afghanistan being created in 1893, Afghanistan as a nation did not even become a  'nation' until the 20th century.  The word "Afghan" on a national term meant all inhabitants of Afghanistan under the royal decree of Emir Abdur-Rahman Khan. 

Before that period, from 1747 until the late 1800's, the region of "Afghanistan" was under different kings, but mainly under the dominion of the Pashtun ethnic group.  Badakhshan, Balkh, and even parts of Uzbekistan were known to show more alignment towards Kabul rather than Bokhara, Delhi, or Isfahan.  The irresponsible heir of the great Afghan leader Ahmad Shah Durrani (in his only accomplishment)  married women from every town and city acquired under Durrani's kingdom which helped unify the kingdom under Kabul rather than other ciities.  Despite revolts by the Uzbeks, the kingdom showed allegiance to Kabul, hence it has and was incorporated into "Afghanistan."

The word "Afghan" has been cited and used in its different forms before and after the Sassanids and mentioned in Sanskrit and Chinese.   It was also mentioned by the Warrior Poet "Khushal Khan Khattak" during the Moghul period.

In conclusion, the more moden word 'Afghanistan" and its citizen known as "Afghans" is a national term referring to all people within the territorial borders of Afghanistan.  The more historical "Afghan" refers to the Pashtuns/Pakhtun of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the "Pathan" of Northwestern India, Bangladesh, and Kashmir.

 

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What are you talking about? 

The meaning of Iranic is the same as Turkic.

Uzbeks, Turkmen, Kyghiz for example are Turkic

Lors, Baluchis, Persians are Iranic

What has america got to do with this topic? I am not american please state what is ment by you can be american?

No sorry I do not get your point, Since Kurds, Persians, Lors, etc are called part of the Iranian or Iranic Family, Race, Tribe...... Iran is a country do not confuse the two, the country is one, You can be Iranian without being Aryan of from Iranic tribe

Please Janissary can you explain what you mean by this, thank you

You are wrong, Persians/Kurds/Lors/Pashtuns/Baloch/Mazandarani/Gilaki/Talys h/Tat/Tajik/Zaza are part of the Iranic family and they originate from a common Indo-European tribe, many of those groups live in one nation and it is correctly called Iran.

Iran has been referred to as a land for these peoples since antiquity, you can find it mentioned in the ancient texts of the zend avesta and in the inscriptions of the ancient kings. 

Originally posted by Aryan Khadem I wonder why regardless of archaeological and DNA evidence do people disregard the Term Iranian tribes. As for Afghani's well lets say this Afghanistan was formed in 1893 with the help of the british who were carving up Iran to help stop the Russians getting to India.... There is no such thnig as Afhghani's only Iranians,Persians are just one of the many Iranian tribes and peoples. read my posts on slavs...... This is also backed up by DNA analysis. If you dispute it then don't leave your opinion back it up with something....

In the 1720s, an Afghan revolt was the main cause of the fall of Safavid Persia. For some time, I think, Afghans were independent. Obviously what diferentiated them at the time wasn't a particular ethnicity mostly but diference of faith: they were Sunnites and the Safavids, as the majority of Persians or Iranians were Shiite.

Anyhow, you know: Danes, Germans, Dutch and English are all Germanic... but that doesn't mean they are all the same.