"Elamites were not Iranian"

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For a while we had an edit war with some people about Khuzestan and Ahvaz. After proving to them that both historically were and are Iranian, they have now moved on to claim that Elam and Susiana were not Iranian.

Me and "SouthernComfort" have tried hard to stop this historical revisionism.

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The page where we have been debating and fighting this issue (where your voice is needed):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Elamite_Empire

The actual page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elamite_Empire

They have even made the same claims about The Achaemenids.

The actual page seems correct.  What is the essence of the actual change the revisionists propagate? The first link seemed like a bunch of incoherant arguments. What exactly do they want to state?

But one thing is for sure and you must make it clear, the Elamites were in NO SHAPE NOR FORM ARAB - Khuzestan's history with Arabs does not extend beyond at most 1500 years and at least 500 years. Also a substantial amount of Arabs in that province today are Iraqi Shi'ite refugees that fled Saddam.

The Elmaites cannot be used as a historical justification for Arab nationalism in Iran.

There is no conclusive proof that Elamite was a Dravidian language, that is why it is oart of the Elamo-Dravidian group, from what I have read it has just a little more commonality with Dravidian as it does with Sumerian.  And you are right modern Dravidian speakers in Iran do not have negro features and no historical finds in Khuzestan suggest that any of its Elamite inhabitants had negro features. You rightly stated that these are due to more modern events of Arab immigration and the slave trade of medieval/middle age.

Black racists claim that the original civilized population of Iran was Black, but I think this is because they have no real civilization South of the Sahara and whatever they have the chance to claim, they will.

Baluchis: Yes they do seem to have sometimes very prominent negro features.

I have also heard that Elamites langwage is related to Darvidian.  They should do a blood test between the two ethnicitys to see if they are genetically similar or not.  I have to say though they do look very similar to people from India.

Finding the true races of Elam or ancient Iran has been a harsh debate. Indeed you have Nordic supremists who state that Iran was p[opulated by blonde-haired blue-eyed men all the way to black racists who say Iran was a land of negros.

Yet bone structures found in northern Ilam and south Luristan province show the same Irano-Nordoid physical form as most modern day Iranians do. They show the same characteristics, which makes sense, and refutes the theories that Iranians were "negroes" or some pale tribes men from central Asia.

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All nations-Turks, Kurds, Lors-Are geographically may consider as Iran

But turk is turk, it is etnically