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Poll Question: is it holly to muslims? with proof beyond doubt
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Jurislam?
And its spelly Holy, holly is a girls name, or a type of plant AFAIK.
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  Quote vagabond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jun-2005 at 03:47

What is jurislam?

Do you by any chance mean the city of Jerusalem?

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Ahh, damn, the spelling completly threw me off.
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Yes it is holly, Jerusalem was the initial direction of prayer for early Muslims before the relationship between Muslims and Jews of medinna went south and Muslims started to use mecca. Also, per Muslim belief that is where Muhammad ascended to heaven from

 

 



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It kind of is, but If your point is that the importance of Jerusalem is getting overemphasized by Muslims to make a case for Palestinians you may be right. From religious stand point Jerusalam is far more important to Jews and Christians than to Muslims

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  Quote Thegeneral Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jun-2005 at 19:48
I don't really know if it is or not.  I am not Muslim.
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The Dome of the Rock, technicly not a mosque, but sometimes called one (Mosque of Umar). It became important after the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem. Muslims (some? all?) believe that this is where Prophet Muhammad ascended to heaven (Mi'raj).

So yes, its  important to muslims, and certainly very holy.
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jun-2005 at 23:13
Both these were built after the death of the prophet so i dont see how they became holy.


Its the actual site, not the building, that makes it holy, the building is there because the site is holy, not the other way round.

Only god makes things holy and revelations stopped after the prophet died.


Presumably, inorder for for prophet to ascend to heaven, God has to help out a little, that sounds like a firm endorsement to me, and its not an everyday event either.
Now, you can argue whether or not muslims *should* thus see the site as being holy because of what is supposed to have happened there, but its really a moot point to believers.

There was Al Sahaba's mosque (the prophet friends' mosque; more than one friend of the prophet built it and prayed there regularly), how come that was not holy?


Because its not the place from which the prophet ascended to heaven from?

oh by the way umar's mosque and the dome of the rock mosque are two different buildings


Its supposidly sometimes called the 'mosque of Umar' as the Caliph Umar once prayed there. It is of course, as I already stated, not an actual mosque.
AFAIK, there is another building called the Mosque of Umar in the Noble Sanctury, there again, i'm sure there are other mosques of that name around the world.


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There are different level of holiness. Any mosque can be holy to Muslims and any church to Christians. If you question is on if Jerusalem is the holiest site to Muslims. The answer is no, not for any sect of Islam. The holiest site for Jews is in Jerusalem not Muslims.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Jun-2005 at 10:43
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Most importantly, where does it say in the Quran that Jerusalem is holy.

You dont have to tell me wehre exactly. I ll take your word for it.


IIRC it's not mentioned in the Koran that Jerusalem is holy, but that's the point. The bible doesn't say Santiago de Compostella or Lourdes are holy, but still they are for many christians.
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