Phenotype of original IE speakers

Its finer work make it much closer to the fine examples you're showing of Diminian pottery.

Well closer yes, but it doesn't really convince me as the original, not that its fake. I mean that it doesn't convince me to be made by the original source of this style, but rather looks like a bad immitation. Besides, didn't the french site you got it from clearly mention 5th millenium, so it is obviously a later 'product'.

You come again negating there is a Sesklo culture, you say there are no more villages that have Sesklian culture. Yet, that's not what I've read.

Well no that wasn't what I meant, my post probably mislead you. When you said "Sesklian villages" I believed you were either refering to more sites in the same 'limited area' (which is why I said "only one site in Sesklo") or to one of the other 63 sites seen in the greater area of Thessaly, which is why I mentioned "lack of evidence" since from what I've read they show no signs of destruction or fire.

While I never rejected that the site of Sesklo was destroyed or abandoned, the crucial point that is neglected by the source you quoted,(no I didn't use that one but a Hellinic site) is that the destruction took place in 4400BC as previously mentioned. (even historyforkids.com agrees on a late detruction. not that it's the most accurate source, but it is interesting they'd miss this fact)
So the invasion by the 'imported' population that settled in Dimini should be rejected but not only due to the inconsistency in dates, but since Dimini was populated (even if it that was sparsely) since Early Neolithic.. see perseus.tufts.edu that also points to the probability of an early fortification during the earliest settlement of Sesklo..

Well true, the 'megaron' does seem to be a new addition/evolution, but that does not explain why there is no fortification in Canhasan, the 'primitive' form of pottery decorations, the absence of male anthropomorphic figurines...etc. (since that is allegedly the source of the invaders) nor why Dimini pre-dates other similar cultures of it's time. (the issue I mentioned before)
While there are some similarities, the differences are far too many to simply neglect them.

Well, the 5th may be adequate but as I said so is the time difference to reject this theory. While both 5200 BC (Dimini) and 5000-4800 BC (Canhasan) are both dates on the 'verge' of the 5th mill. one obviously preceeds the other.
So the whole issue comes down to the distance and dates presented. If they originated in Anatolia (in general) we should have seen their 'influence' in that region first and then expect it to be 'exported' towards other lands.. Balkans, Hellas, Europe in general. But the timeline does not agree with the theory. So it should be rejected. It does seem simple to me.

When Sesklo was destroyed has nothing to do with what I may support, if I'm right or not, but what the researchers/archeologists of the site do.
 As I mentioned K.Kotsakis, D. Theocharis, E.Blowedow,  V. Milojcic and P. Halstead among others accept the date of 4400 BC.
 A more extensive search gave me the following names that all as the previously mentioned archeologists agree on the date.

J. Aslanis, R.J. Elia, D. Kokkinidou, K. Trantalidou, M. Pantelidou-Gofa, A. Sampson, P. Sotirakopoulou, T Hardy, C. Renfrew, M. Thompson. A. Wace and the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki..

Fortifications may not be generally used all over the general region of Hellas but we do have several finds, like those in Nea Nikomedia, Achilleio, Frachthi, Nea Makri, Makrygialos, Tsagli, Otzaki, Visviki, Sitagroi...etc.

Anyway, I still haven't found any source that mentions destroyed villages/cultures due to some invasion in the greater Balkan area, could you point out some that may be connected to this.

Well the "last phase of the occupation was destroyed by fire." is kind of a vague statement. Could they be refering to the literally last phase in the 4th Mill, or do they imply something else ??
(HERE is the official site of the Hellinic Ministry of Culture that even though gives a poor presentation of the site, mentions 4th. mill.)

While the second link does mention 'after' the author of the article contradicts this very statement only one line later by saying :

"The most beautiful example of Greek Neolithic pottery is this two-handled vase from Dimini dated between 5300 and 4800 BC. The vase (25 cm h.) is superb for its shape and its well arranged decoration. [Source: George A. Papathanassopoulos, ed. Neolithic Culture in Greece (Athens: Goulandris Found., 1996), pasim]

So do we believe the author that mentions "after" or the quoted archeologist that gives a probable "before" date ?
(I do believe some form of testing, C-14 or other,  has been made on the artifact)

Even though this site actually supports the 'invasion theory' the dates presented are what I want to point out.

LINK

While I have no idea what the "av. Je" means (probably weren't translated), it does clearly note that the alleged  invasion happened in 5400BC and mentions the phases of Dimini.
- Dimini-Tsangli (4400-4200 av.Jc/5400-5200 BC)
- Dimini-Arapi (4200-4000 av.Jc/5200-5000 BC)
- Dimini-Hagia Sofia (4000 av.Jc/5000 BC)

So this means that there is no need of quarantine and the invasion-destruction dates are simply inconsistent.



Edited by Phallanx

Corrected it, 

Now, back on the topic...Reccently i found articles that confirm some of your views Maju.However, i dont quite understand how do u imagine these proto-IE's:Todays Afghans,Balts, Slavs?...i found different answers on different posts.

How do u explain iranian-nordics?

What's your view on Coon's speculation about IE's being ''gracile mediteranian dolichomorphics''?