UNESCO’s Ongoing War Against Hellenism

was reading something that someone posted on Columbos.. being Kristophoros Kolomvos.. and all.. this is from the same site and interesting...

I wont paste the text here the link is below..

http://www.grecoreport.com/UNESCO's_Ongoing_war.htm

whats your view?

I know and agree.. but what about the 'points' that unesco has hypothesised to be of non-greek origin,

I would say that if we question a lot of things and keep objectivity there would be many such things that have been attributed to various people's of being wrong.. it would be interesting to find the real roots of some things..

I think that there is a golden mean. Of course we all know that all the races have common origins and our ancestors shared common needs and insticts. Greeks or Egyptians were not beings who came from another planet. The migration and the mixture of needs, knowledge and influences which were involved in each nation played significant role to the development of the civilizations. But trying to nulify what History says and show that everything is not as it is said, doesn't work. Middle-Eastern civilizations were the first which came up. Greek civilization was the basis of the development of the European-Western civlization and culture. What we have to do is to respect Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, Phoenicians and all these who made the man be something else but not a simple, uncivilized animal. All have a common source but not a common process and development. 

Edited by dorian

A good example of this "war" would be the topic in "Archeology news" about the finds of "the oldest civilization".
Sure as some claimed it is nothing more than a newpaper article, but it does influence peoples view on history. (especially those that have no knowledge on the topic)
It is a fact that the circulation of a long list of Indo-Gemanic, Indo-Europeans, Nordic invasions...... theories have been developed by a load of wanna-be historians/researchers that do everything in their powers to claim a part of the ancient history.

Exactly how many non-Hellinic sites mention the finds in Hellas like Dispilio, Nea Nikomedia, Frachti, Skopelos, Dimini, Sesclo.........of Neolithic and older dates, then do a simple search on how many promote the Black Athena joke.

Things may not be exactly as the author of the article presents nor is Davlos magazine one of the most objective sources but he does make some very good points.

I dont know if Unvited Nation is in fact so ignorant of academic accuracy, give the fact that there is a problem regarding to the site's credibility.

But, anyway, if it the report is official, I am highly against it. It was true that Hellenic civilization found its root from its neighbors in the South, but one can not then claimed that Ancient Greece was solely the product of the civilizations of Middle East. It distorts our history, and overweights some part parts of world over others. This kind of history results in biased and lost its neutrality.

About the controversial Black Athena, I found it as ridiculous as invention of gunpowder claimed by some racist European historians.

I think Africans should look at how Canadian Aboriginal people, who are proud of their cultures, and how their values have been integrated into Canadian mainstream cultures. It is true that Canadians speak English and French, but their political cultures are very different than that of Europe and of America

Seems like I must have missed the part refering to Paleolithic migrations, anyway.

It's obvious that Greece and the Aegean was colonized by successive waves of SW Asian colonists

Obvious to whom and based on what research which facts?

J. Lawrence Angel studied skeletal material from the Paleolithic to modern times, and participated in examinations of skeletal material throughout the East Mediterranean. With respect to Greece, he found that the morphological types already established in the third millennium BC, if not before that, persisted in all subsequent ages. Thus, he emphasized the racial continuity of Greeks, stating epigrammatically :

�Racial continuity in Greece is striking.�

We find that a large number of Anthropologists agree to this conclusion, among them: Carleton S Coon, B. Gardner, S. Kimball, M. Titiev.......

Eventually Achaeans (Ionians, Myceneans) infiltrated in the country from an unknown source (some point it in Anatolia, others in the Balcans) bringing Greek language and a new historical phase to the region.

Isn't this convenient?
What does unknown source mean, based on what archeological finds and anthropological research can anyone support this, where was the Hellinic language used before it allegedly arrived to this area, who spoke it, why did the 'original' speakers 'migrate' to this area, how did they manage to influence the already existing population that is proven to have been large ?
These are just some of the many questions that such claims rise but unfortunately for the supporters of these theories, no one can answer them.

But it's obvious that those peoples, while being the largely the ancestors of ulterior Greeks, didn't spoke Greek.

I fail to see how anyone can support this when the Linear A inscriptions and those found in Dispilio (see topic in Archeologic news)  remain undeciphered.
Actually the theory about the Minoans and Myceneans was quite similar to what you state up to some decades ago.
Some 'historians' claimed that Linear B' is a totally alien language to Hellinic, and these people must have been connected to Hittites and Egypt. Unfortunately for them and their supporters, M. Ventris proved it otherwise and another theory is where it belongs, in a dumpster.