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    Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 17:31

War of Austrian Sucession 1740 - 1748

Mollwitz (10. April 1741)

(Fieldmarshall von Schwerin/ the King) Prussians: 22.000, losses: 4.850 (22,0%)
(Fieldmarshall Count Neipperg) Austrians: 18.100, losses: 4.551 (25,0%)


the Prussian Infantry Regiment No. 10 on the attack.

length: 5 hours

Prussian victory

 

Chotusitz (17. May 1742

(the King) Prussians: 23.500, losses: 4.819 (20,5%)
(Prince Charles of Lorraine/Fieldmarshall Count Knigsegg) Austrians: 28.000, losses: 6.332 (22,6%)


the Grenadiers of the Regiment von Holstein-Beck (Infantry Regiment 11) in the Battailon Kanitz (11/14) clear the southern part of Chotusitz off the enemy rearguard.

length: 5 hours

Prussian victory

 

Hohenfriedeberg (4. June 1745)

(the King) Prussians: 55.000, losses: 4.737 (8,6%)
(Duke of Sachsen-Weienfels/Prince Charles of Lorraine) Austrians: 53.664, losses: 10.332 (19,0%)
Saxons: 25.100, losses: 3.450 (13,7%)


the Infantry Regiment No. 6 (Grenadierguards) south of the Gule in combat with the Austrian Infantry Regiment No. 23 (Baden-Baden).


the Dragoon Regiment No. 5 (Bayreuth) breaks into the Austrian Infantry Regiment Thngen at 9 o'clock.

length: 5 hours

Prussian victory

 

Soor (30. Spetember 1745)

(the King) Prussians: 22.562, losses: 3.876 (17,0%)
(Prince Charles of Lorraine) Austrians: 42.000, losses: 7.444 (17,7%)
Saxons: ?, losses: ?


the Infantry Regiment No. 23 (von Blanckensee) breaks into the great battery on the Graner hilltop at the height of the battle.

lenght: 5 hours

Prussian victory

 

Kesselsdorf (15. December 1745)

(General-Fieldmarshall Prince Leopold of Anhalt-Dessau) Prussians: 30.000, losses: 5.036 (16.7%)
(General Count Rutowsky) Saxons: 31.200, losses: 10.440 (33,4%)


second assault of the left wing, second battle-line at 3 o'clock afternoon with the Infantry Regiments No. 18 and 46 against the Wste-hill.

length: 2 hours

Prussian victory

 

this is basically a placehodler, order of battles, maps and descriptions to follow. 7 years war will also be covered.

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  Quote Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 20:05
Yes, Frederick was a great general. Its a shame that Prussia was such a small country. If he had more soldiers, he might have been able to do what Napoleon had done decades later.
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  Quote Mosquito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jun-2005 at 14:54
Well, Prussia was a state which was attached to the army.
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jun-2005 at 16:10

there's a famous quote, i can't recall the origin but it goes as follows: "every country has her own army, but in Prussia the army has his own country."

BTW, Prussia actually had a huge army, when Frederick took over Prussia had 85.000 soldiers at a population of 2,5 millions.

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  Quote Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jun-2005 at 19:32
Originally posted by Temujin

there's a famous quote, i can't recall the origin but it goes as follows: "every country has her own army, but in Prussia the army has his own country."

BTW, Prussia actually had a huge army, when Frederick took over Prussia had 85.000 soldiers at a population of 2,5 millions.


That is not huge at all. Napoleon mobilized more than two million men from a population of about twenty-five million a few decades later. Several countries could actually send more than 85,000 soldiers in a single battle.
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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jun-2005 at 19:58
Originally posted by Belisarius


That is not huge at all. Napoleon mobilized more than two million men
from a population of about twenty-five million a few decades later.
Several countries could actually send more than 85,000 soldiers in a
single battle.

Yes, three generations later with new recruitment and organization methods, over 15 years with lots of auxillary troops. Also, the population of France was roughly 30 million. The Prussian army was indeed huge for its time.*


*) as a footnote I can add that Sweden mustered 250,000 men during the course of the Great Northern War already in 1700, with a population of only 3 million. No one beats Paraguay though, where 95% of the male population perished in the War of the Triple Alliance.
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  Quote Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Jun-2005 at 15:54
Ah, yes but I meant as a standing army France had and needed that number to maintain its empire. Prussia was not known for having a large army (as it did not), it was known for the quality of its troops. France mobilized around two million men to repell the Austrians during the First Republic. During the Napoleonic Wars, more than a million French soldiers were killed. That is what you call a huge army.

Thank you for correcting me, I was wrong about my number of the French population. What I meant to say was that while France did have a population of about 30 million right before the revolution, during Frederick's time, it was only about 25 million. This burst in population was one of the causes of the French Revolution.
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Jun-2005 at 16:32

Originally posted by Belisarius

Several countries could actually send more than 85,000 soldiers in a single battle.

yes, at the battle of Liegnitz Austrians had 100.000 men opposed to 25.000 Prussians....Prussians won the battle after 2 hours...

Prussia was not known for having a large army (as it did not), it was known for the quality of its troops.

yes it was reknown for having a huge army, compared to the population. this did even increase until the revolutionary wars but i don't have the numbers (6% of the male population were soldiers in 1813).



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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2005 at 03:31
And Freddy called even more men to arms. And reformed them.

But most of the time he still was outnumbered in battles. And won most of them, if not all.
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  Quote pikeshot1600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2005 at 19:11

rider:

Please, call him "Fritz."

Frederick did not win them all.....most, but not all.  At Prague, 7 May, 1756, the Austrians checked Frederick at the siege of Prague.  At Kolin, 18 June, 1757, the Austrians inflicted a tactical defeat on Frederick.  At Hochkirch, 14 Oct., 1758, Frederick lost one third of his army and two valuable field marshals.  The Russians and Austrians devastated him at Kunersdorf, 12, Aug., 1759, the Prussians losing 19,000 men and much artillery.  He also lost battles at Kay and Maxen in that year.

In the Seven years war, Rossbach, Leuthen and Torgau retieved Frederick's reputation, but he was dangerously close to disaster, and was saved by the death of the Russian Empress Elizabeth and the withdrawal of Russia from the war.  The advantage of maneuver on interior lines made Frederick's campaigns successful.  Luck was part of it as well, but, on balance, " Alte Fritz" was certainly one the of the "great captains."   

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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2005 at 02:24

And not to mention, France had invasioned Prussia as Freddy was fighting in the frontiers.

And, have you lost your sight??lol

I wrote that most of the battles..

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  Quote pikeshot1600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2005 at 08:01

rider:

Ok, ok......and it's Fritz, not "Freddy"

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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2005 at 15:05
I like Freddy more..

now owndering, are you gathering information for an article or just`?
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  Quote pikeshot1600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2005 at 16:34
No, no article.  I guess I can live with it if you like "Freddy" better.
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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2005 at 11:09
Not you.. I meant if Temujin was gathering info for an article.
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  Quote Dragoner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Feb-2011 at 00:15
Wow, REALLY sorry to necrobump such an old thread, but just stumbled across this while searching the web for info on the Anspath-Bayreuth Dragoner and felt the need to mention since nobody else had- that image of the Bayreuth Drgoner (Regt. n.5) charging the Austrians at Hohenfriedberg is great except for two things-

1. They (the Dragoons) are in the wrong uniform- they didn't adopt the blue-faced-red until just before the Seven Years War- and their tricorns are wrong. The coats should be white with carmine facings and the tricorns should be bound with yellow tape. Part of the reason the 'Celestial Blue' coat was adopted was that in the War of Austrian Succession, the Prussian and Austrian Cavalry (Dragoner and Curassieren) wore almost exactly the same uniforms- white coats with facing colors to distinguish regiments and black tricorns.

2. The painting gives the impression that the charge was made across open ground into a prepared enemy (ie.- drawn into a double line formation and delivering fire) that was broken and routed by the weight of the charge- in fact the Dragoons were cresting a hill in a two-squadron front (ie.- in a formation to get from point a to point b, not one for going into battle) when they surprised the flank of the retreating Austrian infantry, who had been in hard combat and badly mauled over the course of almost two hours by that point, and rode through them so spectacularly and savagely that they completely routed the Austrian army by themselves for only about 100 casualties suffered. The charge was still spectacular- it's a textbook case of seizing an oppurtunity and making the most of it- but it wasn't really what we think of as a classic 'Cavalry Charge'.
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