Turks cousins the Albanians?

I know, i know the Albanions belong to a totally diffrent race to the Turks. And yet many Turks describe them as cousins. So far i have gathered to reasons for this;

1) They mixed with the Turks under the Ottoman period

2) They were so loyal that they are like our cousins. This loyalty is even going on today with Albanion Bozkurts.

Anyway please send any more info on this topic or related to this topic.

My understanding is that Albanians were converted en-mass to Islam and since in the Ottoman empire there were no ethnic but only religious distinctions, they became more easily incorporated than other ethnicities.

Cousinhood can be cultural, you don't have to have solid proove of ancestrial relationship (though go back far enough and everyone is your cousin), that said common religion would tend to facilitate intermarriage.

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Turk-Albanion relations are on the up. Turkey and Albania have confirmed the agreement already reached months ago for the bilateral military collaboration during the visit of the premier of Tirana Ilir Meta to Ankara. The Turk-Albanian military collaboration becomes part in the agreements established to guarantee greater stability in the Balkan area and Ankara donated 40 million dollars to the Albanian Armed Forces with a prediction of investments of 80 million dollars within 2004. The Turks have reconstructed and manage the Albanian Naval Academy of Valona, and have reactivated the naval base of Liman Pasha which has been destroyed during the disorders of 1997. They are engaged in strengthening the economic cooperation and, also in the defense area, reconstruct a factory of light weapons.> > >

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There is very little Turkish admixture in the Albanian population.  Most who mixed where then considered Turks.  The catholic Albanians, although fully Albanian in every sense of the word, have the largest Turkish admixture due to the women being raped by the Turks on occasion.  The only willful intermixture was amoung the catholic tribes of Miredite, where it was tradition for certain individuals to take a Turkish wife(as a result of the special privilages they held with the Turks, a very unique phenomena for Catholic Albanians).  Otherwise muslim and orthodox Albanians are relatively pure. 

women being raped by the Turks

Wow, I witnessed every single Ottoman subject hating Turks, but I expected a lower level of complexed hatred from an Albanian. What a shame...

Yiannis

So what should we do?  Live at peace with all people?

If you like history It  was not always ottomans who  attacked other country.And I was not the ottomans who  attacked other countries.

And Ask a Cypriot Greeks  if they prefer ottomans occupation or not?

You will realy learn after  all we are  not devils.

 

 

 

Ah  no, It is not problem.You can complain because Turks ruled Greeks 500 years. But should also you  say, Turks are devil, They love  to kill or so on so on.

As I said, As A cyriot greek If they prefer ottoman occupation or not. They will began  like a ordinary greek cypriot, They killed us ,they mass raped ........

But they will not say we didnt prefer Ottoman Occupation.(Of course If he know his history)

 

 

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That is easily seen after, 1600 ottomans  stabilised all land they live, This is same for Turkey too.

But saying this is different than saying mass rape or something like that.

 

Albanians maintained a very high control of their territory. Once we turned muslim(which did not take long) we no longer had turkish rulers nor did have have any Turkish settlers. Our pashas were of Albanian origins and so on and so on. Albanians have no relations with Turks outside of a fading religion.

If the catholic Albanians have the largest Turkish mixture then why are they catholic in the first place

Catholic Albanians maintained their idenity by living in the mountains. Most Albanian Catholics like the Malesi maintained their catholicsm by just staying away from the Turks. Literally., staying away from population and closing themseled off from society. Albanians who dropped down were then no longer seen as part of the tribe.

Furthermore, most evidence showed that Albanians never even learned Turkish, even letters from Pashas that ruled Albania were in Greek. Albanians were more prone to learn Greek then Turkish.

Raping of women were few. Many of them carried off the women who were then enslaved and sent to eastern provinces, they were not kept in Albania. Later on, since Albania ruled itself, the Pashas who touched the females were of Albanian descedent

especially in the Balkans to become generals, scholars, architects, governors, jannisaries etc and a lot of Albanians took advantage of that.

Nevertheless, Albania and many of its villayets were dung holes. Nearly all western observers stated this.

Not only them, but it was very common back then and I know that these days a lot of Albanian women, Muslims, really like Turkish men

Then your friend in one of the few. Many Albanians who took up Turkish blood then began defining themselves AS Turks and so they had a better life, during the creation of the Albanian state, these guys moved to Instanbul, if they had not done so already. However this was VERY rare as Turkish presence in Albania was very very weak.

Albanians turned muslim to keep out Turkish presence in their world. The Orthodox Albanians were protected by the Orthodox Church while the northern Catholics became isolated and muslims lived among themselves.


Edited by Iskender Bey ALBO