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Kalevipoeg
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Topic: Shocking (literally) police footage Posted: 04-Jun-2005 at 07:32 |
Naturally you can tase with a low voltage on cop shows to not upset the mob, but in real life you can tune those babies up to make fried chicken.
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Menippos
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Posted: 26-Jun-2005 at 15:10 |
I regret that I follow this thread without having seen the video, as my pc has some trouble with Qucktime. But anyway...
Tasers can indeed be rigged to fry a kangaroo riding a camel floating on a crocodile along the river Nile, but the general consensus says that what they saw was overreacting, so I tend to believe that.
Now, about police brutality or overreacting or whatever we and they wanna call it, I have to say that in larger cities, police tends to be overreactive. This is due to the fact that they do not know whom they are dealing with at any time. Of course, this is by no means a plausible excuse, so these officers exceeding the limits of their authority must be brought to justice, as any other offender of personal liberties. However, the difference here is that this must be done without need of filing of a lawsuit by the victim of police overreaction. The state itself must protect itself from these occurrences or they will amplify the social phenomenon of hate against police, with obvious results.
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Posted: 26-Jun-2005 at 15:41 |
I want to taze that dumb pig.
What he did was pure sadism.
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Posted: 26-Jun-2005 at 15:52 |
Bad cop, plain and simple. You could tell from the tone of his voice in his first sentence he wanted a confrontation. The lack of manners was the tip-off. The warnings were crap since the woman wasn't listening and was panicing which is why she was on the phone. But then again, the cop wasn't listening either, and was too eager to use his weapon. This was speeding ticket, not a drug bust.
Usually I'm on the police's side, but this situation calls for suspension if not outright termination. The cop should not be on the street.
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Posted: 26-Jun-2005 at 22:54 |
Originally posted by Mosquito
Well, people are supposed to do what the police officer tells them. It is also for the security of the policeman. Rightful citisen has no reason to disobey policeman's order.
Affcourse if such thing happend to me i would have sued the police to the court.
From this movie i dont get only one thing. Why did they arrest her? I guess not for driving too fast? |
Thank you Mosquito. That woman was committing the crime of resisting arrest and non-lethal force was used to force her to comply. That's completely legal and in my opinion she's at fault for failing to get out of the car. She was also warned four times to get out of the car or she was going to be tased.
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Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 07:18 |
The use of the tazer was completely unnecessary, he could have just removed her from the vehicle himself after arresting her. She wasn't even under arrest when she was ordered to step out of the vehicle. Completely unnecessary and evil.
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Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 07:57 |
I think the policeman was very professional. He asked the woman to get out the car she refused. Well dear he've been all but nice to you, you deserve worse for not obeying the law.
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Laelius
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Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 12:08 |
BTW recently in Madison (capitol of Wisconsin) a police officer used a taser on a five year child because the kid had a pocket knife.
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Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 14:41 |
basic training gone too far?
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Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 19:05 |
Originally posted by Zagros Purya
The use of the tazer was completely unnecessary, he could have just removed her from the vehicle himself after arresting her. She wasn't even under arrest when she was ordered to step out of the vehicle. Completely unnecessary and evil. |
That would have put him in danger, she could have stabbed him when he was vulnerable leaning into the car, or she could have punched the gas and run away with him part way in the car.
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Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 20:02 |
Originally posted by Genghis
Originally posted by Zagros Purya
The use of the tazer was completely unnecessary, he could have just removed her from the vehicle himself after arresting her. She wasn't even under arrest when she was ordered to step out of the vehicle. Completely unnecessary and evil. |
That would have put him in danger, she could have stabbed him when he was vulnerable leaning into the car, or she could have punched the gas and run away with him part way in the car.
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Exactly people doesn't understand the stress those policemen are routinely under. They have to follow a protocol when they arrest someone. no matter who the person is, they have to do that. There are also the other side of the story where policemen get kill because they are too nice or not careful enough . Anyone who condemn that policeman should put himself in that person shoes. i think this man behaved like a rea;l professional and that woman deserves further punishment for not obeying the law. She just had to step out of the car, that's all he asked for. He cannot be at fault here, I know people tend to feel sympathy for a woman, but he has to follow the protocol.
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