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QuoteReplyTopic: Japhethites (Gen 10) match European Prehistory Posted: 18-Dec-2015 at 18:17
We discovered some months ago that the meanings of the Japhethite nations names in Genesis 10 seem to match European Prehistory. For example meaning of Togarmah seems to match (Classic) Neanderthals of ice age. See the tables below (i hope table is not too wide, i didn't think/realise to make sure wasn't too wide until after finished!)
1.1 Ashkenaz/Ashkuz
/Askinaz / As(h)-kenaz/Ashukuz/[Ashpenaz?] / Ask'anaz /Askanazian/Azkanazian
/Ashkenaz(im) /Aschanax(ians)(meaning
"fire that spreads / fire as
scattered / a man as sprinkled, sprinkled with fire") /
"Tuiscon/Tuisto",
~ Homo erectus (Choukoutien/Vertesszoloes/Heidelberg) had fire? / Progressive neanderthals had fire? / Classic Neanderthals had fire? / Cro-Magnons had fire? Ochre? blond/gold hair? fair skin?
4.1 (children
of) Elisha(h)/Elisa
/Eliseus/Elizhah/Eliseans /eleeshaw/'eliyshah /Lysias/Lisias (meaning "god (of)" + "the
coming-one/salvation/saves/help" / "God is (firm)/God owns")
(details: islands/isles, blue & purple) :
~ Aegean/Helladic/Pelasgian?
Hellas? Athens
saved Egypt
from Atlantis? New Testament in Greek?
(Jesus/Zeus Greek?) Helio-lithic? Danubian
(7 yrs ~ Joseph saved world)? Lake
Dwellings (built on shores of dried up lakes ~ Joseph saves world)? Elysian/Elysium?
Elche? Welsh?
English? Ilium/Ilus/Wilusa (Troy)? Elis
(Peloponnesus, famous for its purple dyes)?
Alashiya?
4.2 (daughter/navy/ships/kings/stone of) Tarshish /'Tarshish(-Kittim)'
/Tarshush/tarsheesh/Tharshish /Tar(')shi(y)sh /Tarshish(ites) /tarsis/trss/
Tharsus/Tharsians (from rasasu/rss) (meaning "mine, (to) smelt, smelting plant, metal refinery, refinery, furnace", "a type of (semi)
precious gemstone/yellow
jasper/beryl/chrysolite / topaz,amber"; "a destruction that
breaks into pieces of white, ie white volcanic
ash rock or pumice", "solid/rocky, the region/place of the stone", "hard; hardness; severity; breaking; broken; subdued;
subjected", "gravitational
energy; precipitant force") (details: "sea, name of a sea 2000
parasangs wide, the sea coast", no
"and" between Tarshish & Kittim; "a wealthy and
flourishing seaport town towards
the west", merchants/ships, merchant/riches/metals/ silver/gold, stone of, ivory,
apes/babbons/monkeys, peacocks/parrot; Asher ; land/location semi not
mentioned; 3 yrs) :
~ graves/dolmens
(Western neolithic)? megalithic/heliolithic?
Tarxien? Stonehenge? Tiahuanaco
(see Sitchin’s ‘Lost Realms’)? Thera?
Tartarus? Tartessos? Etruscans? oreichalc/copper/bronze/iron?
cremation/incinerary? St Peter "rock/stone" (Rome)? Tardenoisian?
(details:"bitter & hasty nation",
"used for all islands and greater
part of sea coasts/coastlands", ivory, fleet, no "and" between Tarshish & Kittim, box, king Abianus -> king Latinus; city Posomanga; of Asshur) (refs:
Genesis 10, 1 Chronicles 1, Ezekiel, Maccabees? Dead Sea
Scrolls?) :
~ Western
Neolithic? Hittites/Hattites? Crete?
Atlanteans invaded? Cl(e)ito? battle axe? Keftiou? twins? Cent & South America? Etins? iron? Cadmus? Brutus?
Catti (UK)?
Kition/Citium/Citius (Cyprus)?
Citium in Macedonia?
6Mes(h)ech/Mosoch(eni)/Mosokh
/Me(h.)shek /Khasheh /Mash (meaning "price/precious / economy" / "a trail (of seed), a
drawing out/up, tall / to draw/pull/direct/lead" / "aquisition in the process of
scattering seeds and those seeds taking root and then multiplying and
spreading"
Homo erectus (Vertesszolloes, Heidelberg, lower Choukoutien/Peking), had
fire. H erectus were meat eaters / hunters? [Scholars now
lump/categorise/consider “erectus” & “sapiens” both as “sapiens”.]
[Eolithic?]
Upper Palaeolithic,
hunter-gatherers, Cro-Magnons, homo sapiens sapiens, maximum of last (Wurm)
glacial/ice-age, cave(rn)s, Magdalenian, Ochre? [calendar markings? sewn
clothes?]
4.0 Javan?4.1 Elishah? 4.4 Dodanim? 3 Madai? Joseph famine?
Neolithic, Western, Windmill Hill, Lake-dwellings (dried
up lakes, Egyptian wheat)
4.2-4.3
Tarshish-Kittim? Joseph famine?
Megalithic/Heliolithic, [graves? dolmens?]
4.2-4.3
Tarshish-Kittim? Og (bedstead) (Moses)?
Chalolithic/Copper
5 Tubal?
Bronze Age, (Bell-)Beakers,
[round barrow?]
5 Tubal? 6 Meshech?
Battle
Axe (Corded Ware), Thraco-Cimmerians
7 Tiras?
Wessex,
Stonehenge [3] (Mycenaean, faince beads)
6 Meshech? Gilgal
(Joshua)?
Hallstatt
Gezer [Solomon?]
This shows that: - Modern scholars/scientists/academics worked-out scheme/sequence of European prehistory is generally correct. - Modern orthodox chronology is wrong (too long/old/early). - The theory of Evolution may be wrong since it shows that all as far back as homo erectus & ice age (inclusive) are post-Flood. - The Bible is true as far back as Genesis. - The Bible is not "not a history/science book". - Moses wrote (at least some/part of) the Torah/Pentateuch. - The bible prophecy that knowledge (esp of bible) will increase in end times is seen to be true. - Matches between some races/nations of World and some nations in the Table of 70/72 Nations in Genesis 10. Europeans/Caucasoids are at least partly Japheth(ites). - I am not always/all wrong/dumb about everything as academics have often seemed to imply (by harsh way they treated me). (Hope my motives are not partly wrong here though.) - Atlantis Account is true history not made-up by Plato. We are right that (the royal-island capital-city of the island-continent of) Atlantis matches Tiahuanaco; Atlantis matches Tarshish &/or Kittim in bible, and the culture that Atlantis seems to match is Western neolithic & Megalithic/Heliolithic. - Europoids seem to have originated in Europe. (Though we still have to resolve the contradiction that Indian seems to have the oldest IE deity names.) - The Europeans/Aryans as makers/inventors has a biblical explanation in meaning of Japheth (versus misuse by racialists). - The meanings of names have importance (and we owe thanks to Charles Evans-Gunther for first pointing this out to us / directing us to this).
Shalom (Peace) [not false make desert & call Pax].
(I wasn't sure whether to put this under ancient Europe history or general World history.)
I forgot to add a disclaimer that we may have got a few matches wrong, but if so it doesn't mean we are always/all wrong about everything.
On further research it looks like we may have got Kittim, Dodanim and Tiras abit wrong. I'm not totally sure/certain of the correct match for them but here is the newest updated/new version of that part of the table. The rest all seem to hold testing so far.
(details:"bitter & hasty nation",
"used for all islands and greater
part of sea coasts/coastlands", ivory, fleet, no "and" between Tarshish & Kittim, box, king Abianus -> king Latinus; city Posomanga; of Asshur) (refs:
Genesis 10, 1 Chronicles 1, Ezekiel, Maccabees? Dead Sea
Scrolls?) :
Homo erectus (Vertesszolloes, Heidelberg, lower Choukoutien/Peking), had
fire. H erectus were meat eaters / hunters? [Scholars now
lump/categorise/consider “erectus” & “sapiens” both as “sapiens”.]
[Eolithic?]
Upper Palaeolithic,
hunter-gatherers, Cro-Magnons, homo sapiens sapiens, maximum of last (Wurm)
glacial/ice-age, cave(rn)s, Magdalenian, Ochre? [calendar markings? sewn
clothes?]
Anyone that doesn't know anything about the Table of Nations of Genesis 10 can either look up Genesis 10 in bible, or in Josephus, or can find more info at sites like these:
And anyone can see timelines of European prehistory in relevant books, or see webpages like these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synoptic_table_of_the_principal_old_world_prehistoric_cultures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_prehistory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_prehistoric_technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-age_system#Stone_Age_subdivisions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_prehistoric_Britain ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_ancient_history )
(Sorry i got Battle Axe and Beaker wrong way around in some previous ones).
After this I am quiting Net/Web posting, and quiting giving away any
more of my discoveries/ideas/info for free, since (typically) this has
only had 18 views so far (and 2 of them were me). Stuff everyone, no one
is ever interested in any of our discoveries. And don't blame me for
not being able to explain everything in a million words.
I was wondering recently whether Russian president Putin is possibly related to the Budini of Herodotus??
"Tubal & Meshech" in propehcy seem abit like Laodicea a manufacturing & commercial centre in Revelation (see meanings of Meshech and Tubal)?
Japheth "enlarge" might also connect with Europe (euros "broad")?
I'll just see if this following chart/diagram of the Japhethite nations in Genesis 10 comes out without distorting the lining-ups. (To help anyone that doesn't already know anythng much about the Japhethites and other nations of Genesis 10 in Bible.)
I have one more, last post to make on the discovery of mine of the real location of the 4 (or rather 3) cities of Asshur of Genesis 10 which i made in the last few weeks, then i am leaving as & for reason why that i state below.
NZ's mandatory fluoridation is not fair because it only forces it on the disadvantaged/some and not on the advantaged/everyone.
I aint buying much of your analysis. But that don't mean ya might not be right. More importantly....your contribs are always insightful.
As for the erased post..dunno nuting bout it. But AR that happens to everybody here. And if its a issue of concern for not just you but all concerned such as a virus...report it PM not in open forum.
Iow...get off yer huff mate and keep on keeping on.
Best
CV
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"
S. T. Friedman
Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'
AR, I haven't erased any posts other than idiot spammers posting for fake Nikes and Fifa coins.
Mof, I never saw your post about a virus attack.
"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.
I just did a search of your posts, couldn't find anything about a virus attack.
Are you certain you actually posted it? I frequently write a post and then forget to hit "post".
"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.
Sorry for delay i haven't had access to computer & net while computer at shop getting fixed (i use library when i can get out). Yes i did post the thread about the virus attack it was titled something like "be careful of virus in PMs", posted a few eeks ago. I may have been wrong and i have to get someone to check whether it was a picture i downloaded rather than a virus in the private message (both on the forum apricity (they also deleted my thread there too). Unless the library people or broadband people deleted it?
I may have my computer & net back this coming week, and if so then i will be able to post my Asshur cities discovery then. (I don't have the time to do it on library as they chage 6$ NZ per hour to be on computer not just on net.)
Thanks Centrix, i can answer about not buy my analysis if i know more about what you mean (as i am abit unsure)? I could be wrong but i am reasonably sure it seems to be right. (But then i have been sure of somethings before and found they were wrong. (Though i am certainly not wrong about some of my discoveries.))
Sorry i can't post on my cities of Asshur discovery yet as i don't have my computer back yet, it is still going to be another week or two annoyingly. (It has already been 7 weeks, and now $4700 to fix them computer hardrives which the virus messed-up! ANd that is if they the isp doesn't block my dialup after having not been able to use it for 7/8/9 weeks since they have already been trying to force people on dialup to switch to broadband (which i am not able and willling to use for a number or reasons) or go without net/web.) While i am impatiently waiting burtsing to show the world I am worried that i may die or end up in hospital &/or that someone will beat me to publishing it before me. I can't write it here on the library computer/net as i can't afford the rip-off costs per hour and because i don't have my notes to write a best proper piece. It will be a new topic since it is not Japhethite.
There was definitely a thread/topic posted by me a couple of weeks ago (on library computer/net). You may have forgotten, or one of the mods/admins maybe deleted it because some people think the forum i mentioned is "racist", or you might have deleted it as thought it wasn't appropriate since the virus attack happened on another forum. You don't have to be afraid i will be mad if you just say you did and why. I previously was annoyed as they also deleted the one on that forum (that i had posted at same day too) because it seemed like a conspiracy (the virus attack seemed like it was on purpose). I rather hate people seemingly messing-me around not saying truth. Sorry for the off-topic, "AR"/Sean.
We may possibly be wrong or there may be even more combined-in connections:
We are just very lightly/cautiously/tentatively wondering if (Gil)Gamesh
(the ultimate indirect original of Hercules) is possibly the same as
Gomer of Genesis 10. (If so we very uncertainly also wonder if
Eabani/Enkidu might be Javan//Tubal? Plus we dubiously wonder if
Utulkalama (the 2nd king after Gilgamesh) might possibly be connected
with Togarmah??)
(This also fits in the 'who was the real/original Hercules' thread/topic of a week ago.)
Also, we were maybe wrong about the "no and between Tarshish and Kittim" linking Tarshish & Kittim. Reading the English version the no and may rather link Elishah & Tarshish, and, Kittim & Dodanim. There are a few other similar places in the table of nations where are no ands.
----- To my AE friends: It looks like i
may be going to loose my computer (& net/web) again (after i already
lost it all of Jan & Feb for 8 weeks after a virus attack in dec
against me personally on purpose via a p.m. from a member on apricity
forum). This time i won't be able to afford to get it back after being
ripped-off $4700 in Jan-Feb for the virus attack repairs. I am not sure
if someone has again attacked me with a virus (possibly on here) or
other but it wouldn't surprise me as i have found many humans are
absolute criminal swine (eg the meter reader breaking in by picking the
door lock 3 weeks ago, posioning/fluoridating the tap water, the virus
attack, etc etc). The computer is having problems the last times i turn
on/off (says is a "serious error"!). (It is either virus, or i did wrong
copying some files from old hdds trying to secure quality of xp, or the
computer shop tech rigged it, or because i turned it off once when on,
or just something gone wrong being 2nd hand. Also i having heart pains
again and may die, and also i may die from lack of water if i can't get
decent door locks after the breakin (i can't drink the poison tap water,
i have to be able to get artesian water, no one here will help). And
obviously i am going to have to stay away from all forums now if
lowlives ar going to attack me. (Why they don't attack the criminals in
business and government etc rather than me i don't know.) (Not my fault i
have been very careful.) So I better post a few last bits in this and
other threads now.
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