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    Posted: 03-Apr-2015 at 19:58
Isaiah 53 New International Version (NIV)


53 Who has believed our message
    and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?

2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
    and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
    nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

3
He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.



4
Surely he took up our pain
    and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
    stricken by him, and afflicted.

5
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.

6
We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.



7
He was oppressed and afflicted,
    yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
    and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
    so he did not open his mouth.

8
By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
    Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
    for the transgression of my people he was punished.

9
He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
    and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
    nor was any deceit in his mouth.



10
Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
    and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
    and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.

11
After he has suffered,
    he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
    and he will bear their iniquities.

12
Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
    and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
    and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
    and made intercession for the transgressors.


amen.
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  Quote Sidney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Aug-2015 at 21:03
Isaiah 53:2-3
"He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem."

Is this true for Jesus' ministry. I thought crowds of people thronged to him - the sick and the lame - so much so that on two separate occasions he multiplied food by a miracle to feed the thousands come to hear him, plus the occasion he had to resort to a boat to get away from the many followers.


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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2015 at 15:12
''The low condition he submitted to, and his appearance in the world, were not agreeable to the ideas the Jews had formed of the Messiah. It was expected that he should come in pomp; instead of that, he grew up as a plant, silently, and insensibly. He had nothing of the glory which one might have thought to meet with him. His whole life was not only humble as to outward condition, but also sorrowful.''

http://www.christnotes.org/commentary.php?com=mhc&b=23&c=53


As to your latter...all true as reported in the NT....the prophecy foretold this in the OT. And in the main it can be said to agree. The fact that later crowds were attracted is not unreasonable when one assumes the conditions-times-roman hegemony and the desire for the Jews to see if he was their foretold 'traditional' messiah.

Compare this to the numbers with him who were with him at the 'last supper' the garden or the crucifixion. Where were the masses then.


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