The Yazidis/Kurds againt ISIS

Originally posted by Shadow Do you agree that Persia is a nation who has been tried To be colonized by Russia and UK and that 53 coup was a mistake by US guys,one they should apologize for?

The role of USA in 1980 Turkish coup d'état is also controversial

"The U.S. support of this coup was acknowledged by the CIA Ankara station chief Paul Henze. After the government was overthrown, Henze cabled Washington, saying, "our boys [in Ankara] did it."^[31][32] This has created the impression that the USA stood behind the coup. Henze denied this during a June 2003 interview on CNN Türk's Manşet, but two days later Birand presented an interview with Henze recorded in 1997 in which he basically confirmed Mehmet Ali Birand's story.^[33][34] The US State Department itself announced the coup during the night between 11 and 12 September: the military had phoned the US embassy in Ankara to alert them of the coup an hour in advance"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#American_involvement

What do you think if an US officer told the president that "our boy(Hitler) took the Greece" ?

Very interesting!!! This is poll article, but there is still no singel vote.

Originally posted by Shadow A,B,C are agreed because a believe that a person must ''be polite even when he declares war'' D,religion should be separated from politics,let the mullahs pray in masques I recommend you to give answers rather than makin a post on my Sig because even a ten years old child knows that it's from OVB or makin Nick names for me or talking about what mullah dogs do or talk.A single answer is what you always lack.let's think they did A,B,C,D.then what?will you apologize for everything you did to this country,all the lands you took,all the people you killed,all the freedom you stole,the democracy you took. The years of 52 and 53 were our chance of getting a democrat country,the chance you ruined because of your Soviet phobia so don't say ''it's dead'' because these tough times with this idiots could be avoided if not for your freaky ''strategic'' actions in our soil. These times are not beacause of Arabs or Mongols or Islam.safavid dynasty proves my words so how did this country who was considered ottoman empire's rival became like this?

And the only terrorists the current government supports is Sepah-e-pasdaran.all other terrorist groups are ANTI Shia which makes them an enemy

The only answer due you or any other Iranian that would allow the tyranny of the Islamist fanatic-mad dog-genocidist-mullahs to continue.

Has already been provided.

Your a 'mouthpiece' of the same. Which you have clearly id yourself as.

And as such you are to disregarded as an apologist for the aforementioned.

The day the 'real Iranians' rise up and destroy them; I'll be happy to support them and consider issues of the past. And their good fortune and future.

Till then?

Nothing.

I agree that Iran is talking like a drunken piece of shit but you are not answering my questions ,once you are saying that you're doing this you're going that,OKAY but what about you,when you answer for your actions,using 2 nukes the only nation who used nukes is three United States of America,the nation who trespassed Iran in 2 world wars,a nation that had no fear of crushing Iran when USSR was the subject.Answer my questions,do not talk about whatever any *******Has done .be a man and answer for your actions!

Originally posted by Shadow I don't know how to say it,once again :"I DO NOT SUPPORT THEIR IDEAS AND THEIR ACTIONS" But there are some questions not limited to them,I don't care what they say and i don't approve their actions but i want to know that how The USA government speaks of friendship while THEIR friendship caused THESE friendly guys to revolt and how it caused in 1953's coup.(beside other friendly actions during WWII and even before that) BTW-My sig is from Otto von Bismark who united a country which needed 2 world wars to fall from power.

All very old and ageless bullshit to aid in and distort the mad mullahs agenda. Apologia doesn't work here.

The 53 coup is dead business.


It's been discussed here to the point of vomiting. Your man picked the wrong approach in an era, in which he had no chance of success, considering the economic impact..ie. strategic impact..it had on the owners and users of the petro...and the state's lack of ability to operate them independently. And his successor was murdered by your in house terrorists.

The day the US, less this panty waste administration currently in power..offers friendship to Iran is when:

A. Iran pays reparations and acknowledges it's act of war; vice it's 79 actions against the US.

B. Iran immediately stops all weapons grade plutonium production viz uranium upgrades. To whit disassemble the mega thousands of centrifuges not needed for medical research and production of medical isotopes.

C. Iran formally apologies to the state of Israel; makes compensation and ceases it's ongoing terrorist support of Hamas and it's other proxies against that independent state. And makes compensation for any terrorist action against any state or individual in which their proxies were involved.

D. The citizenry at large, stops their apologia bullshit and get rid of the radical anti semite, genocidalist, mullahs.

Even if 'D' means you die trying..so be it. Better on your feet than your knees serving the madmen.

Until then, all your really hoping for is more Obama procrastination towards your government and a lifting of sanctions.

And thus remain moral cowards and by defacto; supporters of a terrorist sponsoring state.

Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 19-Oct-2014 at 07:39

Protests in Tehran remain useless.


They will allow these as a façade to conceal their actual agenda and allow them to continue until a purpose is served. Which is to provide distraction and obfuscation of and for the next round of nuc talks this month.

Iow. This is not what the fundo madmen mullahs actually want there.

They do want an elimination of Assad for obvious reasons. They do want to suppress Sunni states. They do wish to maintain control of their puppet government in Iraq.

They wish to continue their march towards nuc weapons. They continue with their genocidist rhetoric, and support of Hamas and the destruction of Israel.

They do want to continue to foment unrest amongst the anti ISIS coalition and expand their influence under the guise of benevolence towards Kurds...thereby coincidently disrupting and tampering down any future resistance amongst their own ethnic Kurd populace.


They are not to be trusted any more than the majority of their citizens there who allow them to remain in power.


The fools in the pictures are being duped by some of the best intelligence operatives to have succeeded the SAVAK.

They remain liars, hypocrites, and frauds.

Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 13-Oct-2014 at 00:16

Whether the SA-Jordanian nexus was supplying moneys remains moot. Allegations and reports abound. Some claim this was ongoing for years. Bosh. ISIS has not existed for years.


Consequently it also becomes semantics when and where organization-group 'A' and was not funded become 'B' and then were. That select individuals might have contributed is probable and it's also probable as they evolved that the SA and others tacitly nodded. As this would have been in their own interests to tamp down Iranian aggression and support of Shia terrorists. And Iraq; after the US withdrawal as this was a puppet of the Tehran fundos. Unlike the Turk's and their blood oil. Qatar unlikely; as they are covert puppet of the Iranians and a well known supplier for Hamas (Shia)

One has to remember to divide this conflict as two fold. Actions versus Iraq and sources of weapons gained there. And Syria where the SA and the Jordanians did indeed have an interest in getting rid of Assad. And coincidently downplaying the Iranian efforts in the region at large.


The same can be said of the Turks whose internecine concerns reference the Kurds will not allow them to actively support the same unless Assad is removed. Why they continue to sit on their ass's on the border.

When you do that the murk is less murky.


See: 'Weapons Expert Warns About ISIS Militants' Supply Of Guns And Ammunition'



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/30/isis-weapons_n_5725418.html


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/america-s-allies-are-funding-isis.html


BL..it remains a theological war between fundo sects. And that's a good thing. The more they wack each other the better. The west's mission is to definitely support the secularists where they might be found.

The Kurds and Yazidis and Christians like Assyrians need to be given the heavy weaponry which was instead gifted directly or indirectly to their evil enemy for a year by Qatari/Saudi/UAE billion$ via Turkey and Jordan, not just the pathetic Iraqi army running away.

Turkey's Islamic rulers should be boycotted. Iranian democratic republican opposition should be promoted too. We need secular democracy.


Edited by washere - 08-Oct-2014 at 22:55