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    Posted: 30-Jul-2014 at 12:31

Yet again, Hollywood has depicted the ancient Egyptians as White in the movie Exodus: Gods and Kings, despite all of the objective evidence against this ridiculous notion.

Directed by Ridley Scott of Gladiator fame  and staring Joel Edgerton as the Egyptian pharaoh Ramesses, and Christian Bale as the prophet Moses; it is an interpretation of the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt as led by Moses and related in the Old Testament Book of Exodus.

Joel Edgerton who plays the Egyptian pharaoh Ramesses couldn’t be more European in appearance, looking as though he would be more at home playing a role in a Polish movie than one about an ancient North African king. He simply looks way out of place and totally absurd, at least to the honest and educated. What’s more, none of the other Egyptians in the movie appear to be Black, although admittedly, I haven’t seen the full movie yet.

This epic has a top line up too, and also stars the likes of Sigourney Weaver and Ben Kingsley, and by the looks of it no money has been spared in the production of this mindboggling trash.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2014 at 13:02
IT'S....HOLLYWOOD.

Enough said.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2014 at 20:44
Not quite...though that was good.

I would have expected the liberals and socialists in 'tinkertown' would have supported their façade of alien immigration amnesty (which is really a cover for cheap laborers to do their gardening, cooking and housekeeping)and their expressed undying love for eeo-aa-rr. To at least have hired a 'token' appearing North African, possibly a Mexican America etc. Or African American.

Morgan Freedom would have been excellent.

So much for the legitimacy of their concerns for social agendas and representation.

Otoh, this is the same crowd who had whites playing Indians for 45 years plus.

So the old goat is correct....or let me put it another way what the fuc did you expect.

Historical accuracy? And the same representative?

You need to come over and take a pain pill at my hogan..all then will be well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2014 at 22:02
You would expect different from the folks who cast John Wayne as Genghis Kahn?
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2014 at 07:06
Great, the afrocentrists are back!

Ever seen Braveheart? William Wallace, born around 1270, had an affair with isabella of France, the wife of Edward II. Isabella was born around 1295, her son Edward III in november 1312. Following Braveheart, Wallace had a love affair around 1297 or maybe even only in 1305 with Isabella, who was then between 2 and 10. I suppose Sophie Marceau was not the best actress for such person. When Wallace was tortured to death in August 1305, isabella (10 years old), told the dying Edward I (who really died in 1307), that she gets a baby from Wallace, namely Edward III (born in 1312).

Great isn't it? And you complain about some skin colours. Who should have played ramses, Ice Cube, Puff Diddy or how ever he calls himself now, Morgan Freeman, Will Smith or Dennis Rodman?
Maybe they tried to get some Egyptian actors, but Egyptians don't get visa for the USA :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2014 at 09:50

Hollywood's depiction of Egyptians ain't the only absurdity that's going on here.  Anyone who has read my posts in the Americas Forum knows I'm a diffusionist.  They would also know I very much agree that there was considerable precolumbian contact with the African continent. However, this person makes the jump to Africans being the first inhabitants of the Americas. Tongue He uses the many African appearing sculptures as his evidence.

There are just as many artworks showing contact with China and Japan, as well as Caucasian folks.
 
Contact does not translate to colonization or origination.  It is also a 2 way street.  Cultural influence traveled both ways.
 
This person needs to pay attention to authors other than Clyde Winters.
 
 
Go to his blog, it's great comedic relief.Wink 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2014 at 13:32
What part of "It's Hollywood" is confusing everyone?

For starters, the big name actors are not Egyptians, so unlikely to attract the market demographic the American film industry is trying to reach.

Secondly, the secondary market, books, posters, action toys, etc., is built on the American marketplace - again, local talent isn't going to sell.

Thirdly, everyone seems to have completely forgotten what is going on in Egypt these days, terrorism, persecution of Christians and a terribly unstable situation for filming anything, much less a major Hollywood production.

And lastly, we come to Clancy's Golden Rule, taught to me many years ago by Tom Clancy the author:  "The guy who has the gold makes the rules."

Hollywood has the gold - they make the rules.  Therefore, white people play Indians, John Wayne played Genghis Khan,  homosexuals like Rock Hudson portray manly men who always get the girl, and the Egyptians are played by whomever Hollywood wants...period.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2014 at 21:44
Agreed! However Beorna and I both clicked on his link and picked up on the Afro centrist bit. Which is probably the root of his beef.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Aug-2014 at 04:10
Originally posted by red clay

Agreed! However Beorna and I both clicked on his link and picked up on the Afro centrist bit. Which is probably the root of his beef.



Ah, no. I did not have to click that link, to know what he isLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Aug-2014 at 13:13
Originally posted by red clay

Agreed! However Beorna and I both clicked on his link and picked up on the Afro centrist bit. Which is probably the root of his beef.




Which I read but discarded since Hollywood neither knows nor cares about that particular theory.

If, in fact, I were an Afro-centrist, I might be asking myself why the "cradle of life" turned into a cesspool of genocide, hatred, slavery, starvation, rape as a weapon, turning children into murderers, torture and all of the associated agonies of Mankind.

Fortunately, I am not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Aug-2014 at 01:05
Originally posted by beorna

Great, the afrocentrists are back!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2014 at 04:20
Today Egyptians are quite different with the ancient Egyptians

Today most of the Egyptians are Arabs

Ancient Egyptians were not Arabs neither the Black, in my opinion they had a much lighter skin colour, they hight had ethnical relation with the Berbers(white people) of North Africa.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2014 at 17:23
I agree, North Africa had a Paleolithic influx from the Middle East and Neolithic one from Iberia; by the time the Egyptian civilization came about the population of North Africa was far lighter than the Sub-Saharan Africa.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Aug-2014 at 06:00
Originally posted by tommy

Today Egyptians are quite different with the ancient Egyptians

Today most of the Egyptians are Arabs

Ancient Egyptians were not Arabs neither the Black, in my opinion they had a much lighter skin colour, they hight had ethnical relation with the Berbers(white people) of North Africa.

Culturally speaking, tommy, I would say you're correct. However the dna evidence would suggest that on the whole, as with the Berber, cultural conversion has not changed the genetics of modern Egyptians very much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Aug-2014 at 03:13
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising

Originally posted by tommy

Today Egyptians are quite different with the ancient Egyptians

Today most of the Egyptians are Arabs

Ancient Egyptians were not Arabs neither the Black, in my opinion they had a much lighter skin colour, they hight had ethnical relation with the Berbers(white people) of North Africa.

Culturally speaking, tommy, I would say you're correct. However the dna evidence would suggest that on the whole, as with the Berber, cultural conversion has not changed the genetics of modern Egyptians very much.
Not only culture, after the rise of the arabian Empire, the Arabs had conquered Egypt, then they migrated to this new land, so I believe the Dna of Egyptians had changed too. Modern day Egyptians had the Dna of Arabs,or you can simply say the modern Egyptians are Arabs 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Aug-2014 at 07:27
Originally posted by tommy

Not only culture, after the rise of the arabian Empire, the Arabs had conquered Egypt, then they migrated to this new land, so I believe the Dna of Egyptians had changed too. Modern day Egyptians had the Dna of Arabs,or you can simply say the modern Egyptians are Arabs 
Actually the influence in regard to dna, tommy only just makes it into double figures, and what's more this kind of thing isn't that unusual. In the UK for example there has been both an Anglo-Saxon and a Norman invasion, and take over, and yet still the majority are related to those who were there before them. The Mongol horde invaded and took over China, and again the majority are still Han. Both ancient and modern Egyptians, as a whole, still show a large Eurasian influence, which they have in common with the Berbers, who if I'm right in thinking were in the Nile valley before migrating west across northern Africa.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Nov-2014 at 13:30
Originally posted by red clay

Hollywood's depiction of Egyptians ain't the only absurdity that's going on here.  Anyone who has read my posts in the Americas Forum knows I'm a diffusionist.  They would also know I very much agree that there was considerable precolumbian contact with the African continent. However, this person makes the jump to Africans being the first inhabitants of the Americas. Tongue He uses the many African appearing sculptures as his evidence...


Come on, Red Clay. You very well know that Sub-Saharan Africans didn't know how to build a ship. They didn't invent the sail, either. How would they come to the Americas? swimming? Confused



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2014 at 12:37
Hey Pinguin, long time no see.  I also see your still full of soup.  Your racism and cultural bias gave you away, as usual. 
 
What? They suspended you over at World Hysteria again? Big smile  Either way, your dual idents qualify you for immediate suspension. But so I can't be accused of bias myself, I'll let the mods decide. 
 
  


Edited by red clay - 09-Nov-2014 at 12:46
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Ha ha ha. So long and you still believe in that childish hyperdiffusionism? So, now it is racist to reject retarded ideologies?
Africans did not reach the Americas swimming, you know. They couldn't reach Cape Verde; less the Americas
Just ban me now, please.


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Originally posted by pudu

Ha ha ha. So long and you still believe in that childish hyperdiffusionism? So, now it is racist to reject retarded ideologies?
Africans did not reach the Americas swimming, you know. They couldn't reach Cape Verde; less the Americas
Just ban me now, please.
Suspended for not realising that since the ancestors of the Australian Aboriginals were capable of getting to the Australian mainland by boat around fifty five thousand years ago, or at least around then, then it may well have been possible for sub-Saharan Africans to have travelled across to south America. Ha ha ha! The real reason for you being suspended is because of you being a particularly unintelligent(stupid), and infantile, racist troll. Big smile  

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