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    Posted: 11-May-2014 at 15:39

"Baba" or "Kumir" is a type of stone statue, an idol, which first appeared in Ukraine between the 7th and the 4th century BC. They were built by Scythian and Sarmatian tribes and their meaning and purpose is still debated. It is presumed that they are associated with the cult of the ancestors.
We find thousands of these anthropomorphic crosses and Baba statues in the Slavic lands of Central Europe and in old Scythian lands of Eurasia. It seems that the only other place where they are found is Ireland. If anyone hase any information about these types of stone idols from any other part of Western Europe, please let me know so that I can update the post.
Who were the people who built Scythian Baba stones and anthropomorphic Cuman crosses in Ireland? How and when did they arrive there, and how come not a word can be read about them in any modern history of Ireland? The old histories of Ireland are not so silent. The old histories talk about Scythians who came to Ireland from the Caspian sea, but these old histories are ignored by modern historians as "fanciful" and "ridiculous". Maybe it is time to look at the old Irish histories again.

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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-May-2014 at 16:12
It is  Menhir dubllin!So it could be She&He in the same way!You never know it about The  God!

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I have made several topics about cultural similarities between them, some of these topics are about these idols in Caspian region and Ireland, some other ones are about the similarities between Gilaki, a Caspian language, and Gaelic language, there are also some topics about some similar festivals, like the summer festival of Beltane, in some other topics I have talked about mythical similarities, especially about Nemedians, and some topics are about ancient historical sources and evidences, like what Pliny says about Gaeli people.
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People jump over bonfires in some places over Greater Iran at Nowruz, and people jump over bonfires in northern Spain and Portugal at St. John's Eve. And there are a lot of fire festivals between the spring and the summer in western and northern Europe. There are too much similarities...
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  Quote Arthur-Robin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jun-2014 at 04:48

# 4 looks a little bit like a statue of a goddess/woman holding a vase from Mari city in Iraq.
Irish one has alien-like eyes.
What is the blue thing in the Macedonia picture?
The scythian/bosnia/blugaria/irish ones look like Egyptian ankh maybe?
(I couldn't view all the pics since i only have slow dial-up.)

Baba Yaga/Jezi Baba? Slata Baba?
Abba is father in Hebrew. There was a goddess Baba/Bau. (Polynesian Papa?)

kumir (& cuman/qun) ~ Gomer??

The Fomor / Pomeranian bit is interesting.
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jun-2014 at 05:20
It is imperative plural in Demotic repeating of syllable!
BaBa=(You) Defense&Forbear it!
It defenses the graveyard land also It forbears intruders to insult the graves!No digging here!
Otherway they can not resurrect again Arthur-Robin.Regards.Smile


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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jun-2014 at 05:33
The face is Mother itself!
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jun-2014 at 12:34
Are these related in any way to the "mouthless" menhirs that are found on the west coast of Ireland? 
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jun-2014 at 13:23
I think they are the same.I suppose purpose is also the same:To sign the graveyard&to protect it from intruders.
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  Quote Don Quixote Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Jun-2014 at 00:06
Originally posted by medenaywe

It is imperative plural in Demotic repeating of syllable!
BaBa=(You) Defense&Forbear it!

It defenses the graveyard land also It forbears intruders to insult the graves!No digging here!

Otherway they can not resurrect again Arthur-Robin.Regards.Smile

Ba-ba - in Bulgarian = grandmother
Ba-ba - in Turkish - father
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  Quote Don Quixote Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Jun-2014 at 00:12
Originally posted by medenaywe

The face is Mother itself!

Baba, also known as Bau, is an Akkadian goddess of healing. She was depicted with the head of a dog. She was also called Nm-din-dug, or "the lady who restores to life". As such, she is an aspect of the archetypal Mother Goddess - life-giving, life-taking, life-restoring.
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Jun-2014 at 05:39
NMDiNDuG=nm-din-dug=Maternal-Organisational interior-fulfillment-performance is pleased-satisfied by maternal-organisational soul head.
Maternal-Organisational interior-fulfillment-performance pleases-satisfies maternal-organisational soul head-chapter.
BaU=bau=Defense-Forbidden mouth-confirmation-opinion


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AKKaDiAN=akkadian=Sacrificial-Devoted-Human alignment-equality is characterized-decorated by satisfactory-pleased sacrificial-devoted Mother-Maternal-Organisation.
Sacrificial-Devoted-Human alignment-equality characterizes-decorates satisfactory-pleased-
sacrificial-devoted-human Mother-Organisation-Maternal.
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