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Lenin and Red Teror: extermination of opposition

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    Posted: 28-Dec-2013 at 18:25
In 1917, as soon as Lenin came to the power, he and his close comrades started killing opposition, including those who helped them to get to the power. Their goals were quick extermination of nobility (Czar and his family), Christian faith (churches robbed, priests brutally killed, church gold meleted and sold), all forms of military resistance, all nationalists including local intelligentsia and all carriers of antisematism.

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1. Consolidation of his power by elimination of both opposition and supporters who could have posed a future threat;
2. Elimination of religious leaders who could possibly foment resistance to his policies; and
3. Obviously he needed to have total control of the military, as well as its support.
Lenin is not alone in this regard in recent history-Adolph Hitler being uppermost on the list.1
The same processes are still being used today in Middle East and African civil wars.
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It is interesting to imagine the moral foundation of the first Bolshevik leaders.  This was the foundation of a new system... they formed at the very beginning of the USSR... hoping for what?  To hold to the power for 10-20 years?  To rob churches and rich people and to sell these valuables to foreign investors including gold to western banks? To deposit money in their offshore accounts? 

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  Quote toyomotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Dec-2013 at 19:24
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It is interesting to imagine the moral foundation of the first Bolshevik leaders.  This was the foundation of a new system... they formed at the very beginning of the USSR... hoping for what?  To hold to the power for 10-20 years?  To rob churches and rich people and to sell these valuables to foreign investors including gold to western banks? To deposit money in their offshore accounts? 

They, like people in many other European countries, were fed up with the divide between the rich and the poor. A system where the ruler, in this case Czar Nicholas, was the absolute power and the people had no representation. Unfortunately, Lenins model, communism, was not successful although it lasted for nearly a hundred years. As we all know, the Russian people suffered years of having to line up to buy food, and it often was not available, eventually communism in the USSR fell. An interesting note is that, under communism, the rich and well connected got richer, while the poor got poorer.
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  Quote Romesh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Jan-2014 at 21:28
Russian Czar Nicholas was a nice man.  Jewish Lenin created Cheka, concentration camps, rape, robbery and killings and protective anti-semitic laws...  exterminated millions of civilians. Between 1917 and 1959 the Bolsheviks killed nearly 110 million Soviet people. 

<< the rich and well connected got richer, while the poor got poorer.>  ?? not exactly.  Top officials were rich enough (of course not as rich as many Americans.  The poor gradually improved their "wealth" from the slavery level i.e. peasants working in collective farms (1920-1940) to an OK peasants (not exactly poor), but certainly poor by American and Australian standards. 

It was a morally corrupt, godless anti-Slavic system... at least before 1939 when Stalin decided reduce representation of Jews in the top government. 
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