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Cyrus Shahmiri 
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 Topic: Your opinion about this poem of Avicenna?Posted: 19-Dec-2013 at 03:07 |
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می از جهالت جهال شد به شرع حرام
چو مه که از سبب منکران دین شد شق حلال گشته به فتوای عقل بر دانا حرام گشته به احکام شرع بر احمق A translation: Wine became haram (forbidden) in sharia (Islamic laws) because the ignorance of the ignorants Like the moon which was splitted because the deniers of the faith (refers to Splitting of the moon) This is halal (lawful) under command of the intelligence for the wise people This is haram (forbidden) in the sharia laws for the silly people |
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Baal Melqart
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Posted: 19-Dec-2013 at 11:39 |
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Awesome ^_^ I have another one about the same topic written by Abu Nawwas. I will post it once I get home. You'll like it. |
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Timidi mater non flet
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Ollios
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Posted: 19-Dec-2013 at 15:44 |
Mevlana has also same idea |
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Ellerin Kabe'si var,
Benim Kabem İnsandır |
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Baal Melqart
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Posted: 21-Dec-2013 at 16:47 |
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أرى الخمر تربي في العقول فتنتضي كوامن أخلاق تثير الدواهيا تزيد سفيه القوم فضل سفاهة و تترك أخلاق الكريم كما هيا وجدت أقل الناس عقلا إذا انتشى أقلهم عقلا إذا كان صاحيا A rough translation: I see wine inebriating the minds (of people) and letting loose hidden manners, causing disasters To the fool it gives more foolishness and the decent it leaves untouched I have found that the most lacking in wisdom, when drunk, are the most unwise when sober The poem loses so much beauty when translated. I'm sure this is also the case with Avicenna's poem. Edited by Baal Melqart - 21-Dec-2013 at 16:48 |
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Timidi mater non flet
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opuslola
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Posted: 21-Dec-2013 at 19:04 |
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I am not a poet, but perhaps this is a good translation?
Some people, inebriated with wine, make foolish choices and they can destroy relationships and their own lives. If one is a fool, then wine makes them even more foolish, but a decent person can control the foolish thoughts. People who are lacking in wisdom when drunk, are also lacking when sober. How do you all like it? Regards, Ron |
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Baal Melqart
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Posted: 22-Dec-2013 at 15:37 |
You made that sound better. Thanks Ron! |
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