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If, indeed there exists a creation God, that is "I am", or I created in my own "image", a Man or Woman, then God rested. Then just what did this creation or he/she look like? Just what skin color is the "Creator?"

Go! at once, guys and gals, bounce this one around?

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If a god created us in his own image, then this would mean, that these god would look like us. hard to believe. If a god who created a universe would create humans in his own image, we would hardly look like we look.I am an atheist, widely. Maybe one could call me pantheist, cos this would be in my eyes the only logical idea of a god. But then such a god would be everything, would be power and energy, all materia. Such god would have no skin or hair or eye colour, would have no gender. Such god would perhaps then as well feel no love, no hate, no happiness, no sorrow, but would be as well, love and hate, happiness and sorrow. Such god would not be a creator, but would be evolution. Such god would be first of all just being.
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He or she must have had a very sick sense of humor.
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I don't believe in God but to fairly answer your question, one must read the text within its context, both religious and cultural. It is my belief that the text you are referring to is meant to be understood metaphorically. Man is created in the image of God, therefore shares in God's image in the form of attributes. God is ultimately wise, loving, just, intelligent, creative, powerful...etc. Similarly, man also has those attributes "in the image of God" but to a much lesser extent.

I have never heard any Jewish or Christian scholar posit the idea that man was literally created in the physical image of God.


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How about; GOD, the Most High Spirit, with the ultimate EGO, who can manifest a form/body if necessary ?

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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Dec-2013 at 11:37
Originally posted by opuslola

How about; GOD, the Most High Spirit, with the ultimate EGO, who can manifest a form/body if necessary ?

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Well that's exactly my point. Apparitions and manifestations are thought of in Christianity and Judaism as being merely an optical tool which allows for an individual to make contact with God. This wouldn't make God physical as far as I understand...

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He or she must have had a very sick sense of humor.
As someone once said, "God is black, isn't she?"
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  Quote toyomotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Feb-2014 at 01:59
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How about; GOD, the Most High Spirit, with the ultimate EGO, who can manifest a form/body if necessary ?

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  Quote toyomotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Feb-2014 at 02:01
Originally posted by opuslola

If, indeed there exists a creation God, that is "I am", or I created in my own "image", a Man or Woman, then God rested. Then just what did this creation or he/she look like? Just what skin color is the "Creator?"

Go! at once, guys and gals, bounce this one around?

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Ron, if God created the earth and sky, when was that please, the date I mean?
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According religion before Christ it has to be 40 days after Eastern.Eternal heaven came to God&Goddess chests as words say it.But you have to choose not to believe in this revisionism.
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medenaywe:  According religion before Christ it has to be 40 days after Eastern.
 
AY??? That can't be right.
 
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Why,First is the God than Creation!
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Creation did not create God.God is axiom!They did not ask about it.God started the creation and  creates  all around them including them,divine genuine-original.

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  Quote toyomotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Feb-2014 at 06:13
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Why,First is the God than Creation!
I think the translation into English has missed something. If you're using an electronic translator, it's pretty useless, because your posts don't make sense.
 
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First was God than creation comes!Sorry about your logic Toyo! 
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God=timeless creation&creativity!
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Originally posted by Baal Melqart


I don't believe in God but to fairly answer your question, one must read the text within its context, both religious and cultural. It is my belief that the text you are referring to is meant to be understood metaphorically. Man is created in the image of God, therefore shares in God's image in the form of attributes. God is ultimately wise, loving, just, intelligent, creative, powerful...etc. Similarly, man also has those attributes "in the image of God" but to a much lesser extent.

I have never heard any Jewish or Christian scholar posit the idea that man was literally created in the physical image of God.




I'm agnostic, so I do not believe in invisible deities and things like Creationism.  The world is what it is, period.  And we are what we are, nothing special, just a self-destructive, arrogant and vain species passing through, soon to be gone and long forgotten.

Which "god" are you talking about?  The Old Testament god was a genocidal mass murderer, but he was the original Christian "god".  The New Testament god was a politically correct re-written image created so that he would sell better.

Man has never been "created in the image of "God".  We are too imperfect mentally and physically to be any such thing.  It's another gimmick of religion used because humans cannot relate to "gods", so we were given the concept that we are "his children, created in his image".  Religion is about controlling large groups of people, not about worshipping invisible super beings.  That's why the concepts of Heaven and Hell were invented - it's the age old carrot-and-the-stick routine.

Unfortunately, the Christian god is the newest kid on the cosmic block and cannot lay claim to anything.  Everything, including creation, was done earlier by a pantheon of gods and goddesses from every other culture that ever existed, all of whom undoubtedly "created Man in their image", too.  After all, if you believe in one invisible deity, you have to believe in all of them.

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  Quote beorna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Feb-2014 at 13:33
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I'm agnostic, so I do not believe in invisible deities and things like Creationism.  The world is what it is, period.  And we are what we are, nothing special, just a self-destructive, arrogant and vain species passing through, soon to be gone and long forgotten.

Which "god" are you talking about?  The Old Testament god was a genocidal mass murderer, but he was the original Christian "god".  The New Testament god was a politically correct re-written image created so that he would sell better.

Man has never been "created in the image of "God".  We are too imperfect mentally and physically to be any such thing.  It's another gimmick of religion used because humans cannot relate to "gods", so we were given the concept that we are "his children, created in his image".  Religion is about controlling large groups of people, not about worshipping invisible super beings.  That's why the concepts of Heaven and Hell were invented - it's the age old carrot-and-the-stick routine.

Unfortunately, the Christian god is the newest kid on the cosmic block and cannot lay claim to anything.  Everything, including creation, was done earlier by a pantheon of gods and goddesses from every other culture that ever existed, all of whom undoubtedly "created Man in their image", too.  After all, if you believe in one invisible deity, you have to believe in all of them.


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Empress Helena knew exactly what she was doing.  She could be seen as the first spin doctor, As most of the "repackaging", was done under her guidance.
 
 
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Originally posted by Mountain Man


I'm agnostic, so I do not believe in invisible deities and things like Creationism.  The world is what it is, period.  And we are what we are, nothing special, just a self-destructive, arrogant and vain species passing through, soon to be gone and long forgotten.

Which "god" are you talking about?  The Old Testament god was a genocidal mass murderer, but he was the original Christian "god".  The New Testament god was a politically correct re-written image created so that he would sell better.

Man has never been "created in the image of "God".  We are too imperfect mentally and physically to be any such thing.  It's another gimmick of religion used because humans cannot relate to "gods", so we were given the concept that we are "his children, created in his image".  Religion is about controlling large groups of people, not about worshipping invisible super beings.  That's why the concepts of Heaven and Hell were invented - it's the age old carrot-and-the-stick routine.

Unfortunately, the Christian god is the newest kid on the cosmic block and cannot lay claim to anything.  Everything, including creation, was done earlier by a pantheon of gods and goddesses from every other culture that ever existed, all of whom undoubtedly "created Man in their image", too.  After all, if you believe in one invisible deity, you have to believe in all of them.


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