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Denkard VI promotes vegetarianism.  (But can anyone tell me exactly where?)  This supports the fact that a regional form of Zoroastrianism introduced the doctrine of reincarnation.  
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How come we don't know so much about Zoroastrianism? Don't we have their holy scripture like the Gathas and Yasnas?
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How come we don't know so much about Zoroastrianism? Don't we have their holy scripture like the Gathas and Yasnas?



Actually we know a lot about Zoroastrianism.  It's just not taught in schools they way it should be.  If you think about it scholars often note how much of the Zoroastrian literature was destroyed, but considering the fact that it was the foundation for the core belief system of the Abrahamic faiths, it's actually quite amazing what they were able to preserve.  In my opinion Zarathushtra should be taught in English classes like Homer.  
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Zarathustra was a philosopher, not a poet. Homer wrote epic poems not religious stuff. Apples to oranges much?
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Originally posted by mojobadshah

Denkard VI promotes vegetarianism.  (But can anyone tell me exactly where?)  This supports the fact that a regional form of Zoroastrianism introduced the doctrine of reincarnation.  


That's a great leap from one thing to another.  Is there proof of such a connection?
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Zarathustra was a philosopher, not a poet. Homer wrote epic poems not religious stuff. Apples to oranges much?

Actually Z was an ereshi "poet-priest."  That he was also a poet is well established.  There is religious stuff in Homer's works too.  
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According to Pallas, Euboulos, and Bhavya the Magi believed in metempsychosis or reincarnation.  Regional Zoroastrians such as the Khurramis didn't kill animals, were vegetarians, and believed in reincarnation.  
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Originally posted by mojobadshah

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Zarathustra was a philosopher, not a poet. Homer wrote epic poems not religious stuff. Apples to oranges much?

Actually Z was an ereshi "poet-priest."  That he was also a poet is well established.  There is religious stuff in Homer's works too.  


What are you talking about? There is a distinct line between literature and philosophy. Zoroaster did not write any epic poem that we know of... Confused
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OK - makes sense now.  However, I doubt being Vegan causes belief in reincarnation. Vegetarianism is an interesting philosophy, but highly inefficient in terms of human survival and thriving and runs counter to human evolution and development.
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OK - makes sense now.  However, I doubt being Vegan causes belief in reincarnation. Vegetarianism is an interesting philosophy, but highly inefficient in terms of human survival and thriving and runs counter to human evolution and development.

People stopped eating animals and began to eat only vegetables because they believed humans were reincarnated into animals.   
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Originally posted by TITAN_

Originally posted by mojobadshah

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Zarathustra was a philosopher, not a poet. Homer wrote epic poems not religious stuff. Apples to oranges much?

Actually Z was an ereshi "poet-priest."  That he was also a poet is well established.  There is religious stuff in Homer's works too.  


What are you talking about? There is a distinct line between literature and philosophy. Zoroaster did not write any epic poem that we know of... Confused



The Yasna and Gathas as far as I know seem to have some poetic qualities. It's not prose if I'm right. Maybe Mojobadshah can confirm.
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Originally posted by Baal Melqart

Originally posted by TITAN_

Originally posted by mojobadshah

Originally posted by TITAN_

Zarathustra was a philosopher, not a poet. Homer wrote epic poems not religious stuff. Apples to oranges much?

Actually Z was an ereshi "poet-priest."  That he was also a poet is well established.  There is religious stuff in Homer's works too.  


What are you talking about? There is a distinct line between literature and philosophy. Zoroaster did not write any epic poem that we know of... Confused



The Yasna and Gathas as far as I know seem to have some poetic qualities. It's not prose if I'm right. Maybe Mojobadshah can confirm.



Yeah, that's the way I understood it.  The Gathas, and all the Avesta were hymns that developed out of the a long Ereshi "poet-priest" tradition.    
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