Iranian obsession with Nordic features

Personally, Shamshir, I prefer people to be inclusive with one another, and having and building connections. If there are Iranians who feel a connection with us Europeans with blonde hair(mine is all but gone now) and light eyes, and it isn't in an unhealthy way, then what's the harm? We're all humans at the end of the day.

Western Europeans have a lighter reserve toward Eastern Europeans, considered more mixed than them (WE) but less than Asian people.


And I would say Eastern Europeans see Asian people more mixed then themselves, which is not very untrue either.



But this is not a racial thing, is rather a form of self-protecting from groups of general lower education and worse behaviour and habits.

I noticed that the more mixed a group is, the bigger social problems are because individuals characterized by immorality, lack of civic attitude, corruption.

Examples: Italy, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, all having the most mixed populations in Europe due to historical migrations or imperialism.


Perhaps the more mixed a group is, more contradictory personality types exists, or another explanation is that the more mixed a population is, the personalities of individuals are stronger and more complex, leading to generally higher conflictual relations, tendencies break the law, deceive etc.

Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising Originally posted by Menumorut But this is not a racial thing, is rather a form of self-protecting from groups of general lower education and worse behaviour and habits. Really, Menumorut, considering the incredibly high standards in education in many Asian countries in comparison to most European, and western countries?

I should have said Near Orient.

Originally posted by Menumorut I noticed that the more mixed a group is, the bigger social problems are because individuals characterized by immorality, lack of civic attitude, corruption. Examples: Italy, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, all having the most mixed populations in Europe due to historical migrations or imperialism. Perhaps the more mixed a group is, more contradictory personality types exists, or another explanation is that the more mixed a population is, the personalities of individuals are stronger and more complex, leading to generally higher conflictual relations, tendencies break the law, deceive etc.

I'm pretty sure that personality types run across the board, Menumorut, regardless which ethnic group you come from. Those who discriminate against those of different ethnic groups, because they are from a different ethnic group is more likely to cause social unrest, and problems.

Originally posted by Menumorut I noticed that the more mixed a group is, the bigger social problems are because individuals characterized by immorality, lack of civic attitude, corruption. Examples: Italy, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, all having the most mixed populations in Europe due to historical migrations or imperialism. Perhaps the more mixed a group is, more contradictory personality types exists, or another explanation is that the more mixed a population is, the personalities of individuals are stronger and more complex, leading to generally higher conflictual relations, tendencies break the law, deceive etc.

I couldn't agree more. I also think that racially diverse nations tend to have a very low sense of national pride, since the only connection between its citizen is often linguistic, which is as weak a factor. I, however, DO NOT support supremacism in any way, shape or form. At the end of the day, all of us are nothing more than evolved apes.

Originally posted by Shamshir I couldn't agree more. I also think that racially diverse nations tend to have a very low sense of national pride, since the only connection between its citizen is often linguistic, which is as weak a factor. I, however, DO NOT support supremacism in any way, shape or form. At the end of the day, all of us are nothing more than evolved apes.

I'm not a person who believes that there are more than one race, the human race. But I do believe that there are very many ethnic groups. In your opinion, Shamshir, does Iran having many ethnic groups make it less proud of itself?

Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising Originally posted by Shamshir I couldn't agree more. I also think that racially diverse nations tend to have a very low sense of national pride, since the only connection between its citizen is often linguistic, which is as weak a factor. I, however, DO NOT support supremacism in any way, shape or form. At the end of the day, all of us are nothing more than evolved apes. I'm not a person who believes that there are more than one race, the human race. But I do believe that there are very many ethnic groups. In your opinion, Shamshir, does Iran having many ethnic groups make it less proud of itself?

Yes and no.

Yes, there are many ethnic groups in Iran, many of which are non-Iranic. They are culturally, linguistically and racially disconnected from Iran. They have no sense of pride of their country and are labelled as seperatists. They're a danger to the territorial integrity of Iran.

No, There are many Iranic ethinc groups in Iran and those are proud Iranians who acknowledge the glory of the past and are nationally aware.

But lets take a general look at Iran today. Ethnic diversity is damaging the unity of country. Intentional distortion of pre-Islamic Iranian history caused by ethnic hostilities and lack of national pride. All of these problems are an indirect result of racial mixing which has been occurring in Iran for atleast 1400 years.

But we're going way off topic here.


Edited by Shamshir - 09-Feb-2013 at 05:06

Originally posted by Shamshir So, are you saying that a blonde Scythian is as much Iranian as a black-haired Persian? Well, that makes sense.

For at least a significant proportion yes.

Originally posted by Shamshir I have always wondered why SOME Iranians have an obsession with Nordic features such as blonde hair and light eyes! They take pride in relating their race (mine also) to that of the Germans in particular by showing off pictures of Iranian people who possess Nordic facial features. No offence to Germans, but I think this is quite degenerating to us Iranians everywhere. We have a rich history and culture, we do not need to establish an "Aryan Brotherhood" or any similar nonsense with the Europeans. Ironically, the Achaemenids, the greatest Iranians of all-time, did not have blonde hair and blue eyes. Google their pictures and see for yourselves. Sorry about the rant, just needed to get that off my chest.