Greece+Serbia vs Turkey

Originally posted by barish Originally posted by Neoptolemos When my grandfather was fighting against the Nazis your Turkish grandfather was enjoying his nargile. Well, that's offensive. Don't forget to report yourself too.

If I offended you barish I apologise to you. My intention, however, was not to offend Turks, but to answer to provocative posters. In any case feel free to report me.

 

Coming back home from school,after taunted by some English boys,one boy sits before his screen and writes with a really british "accent" here

@Barish...
I don't know if sounds offensive ,but that's history.
My grandfather was wounded in March of 1941,after fighting 5 months in the snow of Pindus mountains.






Edited by Digenis - 03-Jun-2006 at 04:35

I don't blamme your grandfather of course! I m pretty sure that 60 years ago it was a hard time ,for everyone in the region-even during peace!

As for the government of Turkey, it is well known  the provision of Axis with metal (esp.chromium) and other resources for the war industry .

In any case it is far from reallity to accuse Greece for not fighting in WW2,since greek army defeated Italians in Albanian's frontier and resisted the German invasion in Bulgaria's frontier .
Finally, although the government decided a ceasfire ,after the invasion via Yugoslavia ,Cretans ,together with English and New-Zealand's soldiers, fought in the Battle of Creta.(May 1941).

actually the delay was more like 5-6 weeks, or so I have heard. So during the turning point in the invasion of Russia, German soldiers were freezing their ass off in Stalingrad, instead of skinny dipping in the Volga river, had they attacked a couple of weeks early.

"From now one we won't say Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks"

great quote


Edited by mamikon - 03-Jun-2006 at 12:59

Originally posted by the Bulgarian My respects to the Greeks, but the Russians could have won the war without their help.

You should ask the Russians about that... Another quote:

"You have fought unarmed against fully armed and you won. You have fought small against big ones and you have prevailed. It couldn't be otherwise because you are Greeks. Being Russians we have gained thanks to your sacrifice time to defend ourselves. And for this we are grateful."
Moscow Radio Station, 27-4-1942

and here's another one:

"The Greeks brought about the first actual defeat of the land forces of the Axis. Even if Greece was to be crashed tomorrow, its military contribution would remain unimpaired. It will be the glory of modern Grece that it dismantled the omnipotence of the Axis and gave to all free peoples the proof of the value of democracy. "
newspaper The New York Times, 28-11-1940

... and two more:

"Greece is for all the world an example of bravery." newspaper Bahit, Turkey

"In the name of the gagged but living French people the free French address a salute to the Greek people fighting for liberty. 25/3/41 finds Greece in the apogee of its heroic struggle and at the peak of glory. Never since the time of Salamis has Greece been greater and more glorious than this day."
General Charles De Gaulle, France


Edited by alexISS - 03-Jun-2006 at 16:51

Originally posted by Digenis (i quoted Just  to be seen again )

Churchill's opinion on the greek WWII resistance can be considered more important than Bulldog's me thinks

Originally posted by barish I respect every Greek soldier who resisted the invasion of Nazis. But I think you are exaggerating the effect of Greece on World War II.

(that's a badly derailed topic, but what the heck)

I only posted quotes and none of them came from a Greek. I do believe however that, considering it's resources, Greece did a lot more than the world expected. It's also a fact that Germany was defeated by both the Red Army and the Russian winter, who would not be such a decising factor had Greece surrendered without a fight. Although superpowers were involved in WWII, it was a war won by an inch and because of that every single soldier made a difference. What I'm saying is that the war could also be lost without Yugoslavia's or New Zealand's or even Malta's contribution. It is also worth mentioning that Greece dealt the first allied victory, lifting up hopes and making other nations believe that the axis was not invulnerable after all.


Edited by alexISS - 03-Jun-2006 at 20:23

historical amusement... this should be on topic then
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319967978568410735
That's what your great empire's been reduced to Bulldog...

Are you one of those who back their talk with action bd? Cause talk is all that's come out of you so far... And don't even dream of judging the greek culture or, even worse, compare it to yours you cocky little brit... Being drunk half your lifetime may be quite amusing (and on topic) but is clearing you out of the puppeteers' list, you have no pawns, you ARE the pawns of whiskey and vodka retailers...

are you amused yet?


Edited by alexISS - 03-Jun-2006 at 23:09

LOL alexis and mamikon 

Hey, whose language are we speaking on this forum and all across the internet

If I judge from your rich vocabulary which starts from paranoia and ends in paranoid, I guess we are speaking greek lol