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    Posted: 07-May-2005 at 21:29
If such a war happened without any other nation getting involved who would win? My bet is on Turkey since it has a very powerful American influenced military.
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Well first you said if no other countries get invovled, but then you say turkey because of American influece? Doesnt the AMerican influence count as someone getting invovled? 
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I think he means no further influence..

and Turkey will win
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Originally posted by Alexander of Macedon

Turkey will win

I am sure if sth like that happened you and your Slavic friends would join Turkish military from day one, Al.

Btw what kind of signature is this you put there, Al? Is it my imagination or is your signature map contains Areas of other countries like Greece and Bulgaria??? This is called propaganda Al, sth which is too common upon your Slavic people. So considering what has happened in the past here with a flag of Cyprus, do us a favor Al. and get rid of it.

I am sure noone here appreciates members having as signature maps containing areas of other countries.

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OOOOOOOh this is intersting!Greece has a strong navy and is powerful as turkey with aircrafts.Istanbul-open target!But Turkey is in the top 7 for the number of soldiers,tanks,navy and airplanes so tough!If we survive the loss of whole istanbul we will win.Greek military is strong,we would definatly have to rebuild istanbul

Izmir-i don't know.Overall,I think it'S like first world war war,a country with strong navy and economics against one with strong land miliyary(expt we have aircrafts,and we are close to greece)

Really hard,but i vote turky
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Originally posted by aknc

Izmir-i don't know.Overall,I think it'S like first world war war,a country with strong navy and economics against one with strong land miliyary(expt we have aircrafts,and we are close to greece)

You are suggesting  that the Ottoman Empire had a strong land army? Its army was numerous but they didnt have proper weapons or even a proper training.
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Turkey,not the ottoman empire!
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We OWN them like we did in 1071, 1453, 1923, 1974

I know it feels hard but still  We are the champions, we are the champions, YOU are the losers but WE are the champions

A suggestion let them fight with best weapons they have and we with just hand-guns still we would win.... no chance for greco-serbs  

 

 



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What about 1821? DId you win that year too? If your not going toi really add to the posts, then please to not participate,

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Greece is much smaller territorially than Turkey so the targets are easier to reach.  Most of Greeces military is on the Thrace and Turkey would suffer great loses there, however if Turkey was smart then they could divide the Greek forces there by attacking Greece somewhere less obvious where Greece would be forced to defend thus weakening the Greeks and by the size of Turkish forces alone Turkey would force through  a weaker defended Thrace, once thats accomplished then it would be an easy victory from then on.
Also another factor is civilians.  Obviously they will get involved and again numbers is on Turkeys side.
I would give it two weeks for Turkey to get through the Thrace and maybe a week after that to finish Greece off.
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I have no idea why i just participated in this stupid thread 
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Originally posted by AyKurt

Greece is much smaller territorially than Turkey so the targets are easier to reach.  Most of Greeces military is on the Thrace and Turkey would suffer great loses there, however if Turkey was smart then they could divide the Greek forces there by attacking Greece somewhere less obvious where Greece would be forced to defend thus weakening the Greeks and by the size of Turkish forces alone Turkey would force through  a weaker defended Thrace, once thats accomplished then it would be an easy victory from then on.
Also another factor is civilians.  Obviously they will get involved and again numbers is on Turkeys side.
I would give it two weeks for Turkey to get through the Thrace and maybe a week after that to finish Greece off.

Yeah yeah,but our border in thrace is extremely strong,my grandfather was with the army,and he told that we sent troops to the border during te cyprus event,but never called them back
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Originally posted by AyKurt

Greece is much smaller territorially than Turkey so the targets are easier to reach.  Most of Greeces military is on the Thrace and Turkey would suffer great loses there, however if Turkey was smart then they could divide the Greek forces there by attacking Greece somewhere less obvious where Greece would be forced to defend thus weakening the Greeks and by the size of Turkish forces alone Turkey would force through  a weaker defended Thrace, once thats accomplished then it would be an easy victory from then on.
Also another factor is civilians.  Obviously they will get involved and again numbers is on Turkeys side.
I would give it two weeks for Turkey to get through the Thrace and maybe a week after that to finish Greece off.

Yeah yeah,but our border in thrace is extremely strong,my grandfather was with the army,and he told that we sent troops to the border during te cyprus event,but never called them back



ok, one week to get through the Thrace then and one more week to finish the Greeks off
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Originally posted by AyKurt

Greece is much smaller territorially than Turkey so the targets are easier to reach.  Most of Greeces military is on the Thrace and Turkey would suffer great loses there, however if Turkey was smart then they could divide the Greek forces there by attacking Greece somewhere less obvious where Greece would be forced to defend thus weakening the Greeks and by the size of Turkish forces alone Turkey would force through  a weaker defended Thrace, once thats accomplished then it would be an easy victory from then on.
Also another factor is civilians.  Obviously they will get involved and again numbers is on Turkeys side.
I would give it two weeks for Turkey to get through the Thrace and maybe a week after that to finish Greece off.

I have heard that on the Thracian boarder it is divided by a river, and that the Greeks have the highground, and the turkish side is on lower ground. I do not believe the turks couldp ush over the river, and then Up to the highground.I have not seen the boarder, but what if the bridge or bridges are blown out. How do they cross under constant fire of greeks?
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A couple of options.
the first would be to attack Greece elswhere like i said to force the Greeks to pull some troops out of the Thrace to defend other parts of Greece, the other option would depend on how the war would start.  Turkey could mount a suprise arial attack which would weaken the installations there.

Also if most of Greeces forces are on the Thrace then that would leave ther rest of Greece vulnerable.  If Turkey attacks a less defended part of Greece then the Turks could fight on two fronts of the Thrace, coming from behind as well as on the border.
Either way the Turks would be victorious.
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Greece will put up a good fight if we attack by land.we have so many aircrafts,first we should strike from the air.After thay get over the effect of the first strike we attack!But i don't know the situation and the quality of the land army of greece wiich is strong i assume,if we win,it'll take like year or more
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Where else, my friend, could they attack? Send their ships through the "shark infested" waters of the Aegean, full of greek ships and missles? Thrace is the only place to realistically attack, except for the islands but the islands closest to turkey would have no major impact on the outcome of the war. If turkey could get by in thrace, then prehaps they could win the war.Who says that Serbia will not cross through Bulgaria to fight the tuks on northern thrace? there are many options.
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I heard somewhere that Turkey was preparing to invade Serbia with ground troops during the Kosovo conflict. Is this true???
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Man, is this topic pathetic or are the people that have posted TOTALLY IGNORANT???????

In any military conflict, providing that other "powers" aren't involved the basis of difference is military equipment and strategic positions.

NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!

I suggest our dear pro-Turkish friends give us a list of available military targets, how they can (if they can) disable them, what the "anti-weapon" to the S300 is and exactly how they will if not disable, avoid it, what they can or will do about the ARTEMIS, how they can get through the islands of the Aegean, their available fighter planes and what type...................

War these days isn't, I have 20000 you have 2000, these kinds of battles were 500yrs ago, today it's all about strategic positions and ADVANCED military equipment.

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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