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Topic: Flat Earth Society Posted: 23-Jan-2014 at 19:27 |
Originally posted by Mountain Man
This is all obsolete thinking. The current "theory" is that the universe we observe is a holographic projection inside a gigantic sphere enclosing us. I kind of like this one because it matches up with my "Botany Bay" theory of creation. Which begs the question: what is outside the sphere and who is doing the projecting?
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Will you please enlighten me on your "Botany Bay" theory of creation?
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Posted: 23-Jan-2014 at 11:48 |
Sorry! I didn't mean for it to come out like you took it. I love the video!
Just listened to it again.
Regards, Ron
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Posted: 23-Jan-2014 at 11:04 |
This is all obsolete thinking. The current "theory" is that the universe we observe is a holographic projection inside a gigantic sphere enclosing us. I kind of like this one because it matches up with my "Botany Bay" theory of creation. Which begs the question: what is outside the sphere and who is doing the projecting?
Edited by Mountain Man - 23-Jan-2014 at 11:06
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Posted: 23-Jan-2014 at 09:38 |
Ron, your toeing close to the line. How about a chill pill, hmmm?
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Posted: 23-Jan-2014 at 01:59 |
What about word Ban?!?
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Posted: 23-Jan-2014 at 01:53 |
Hey, toyomotor! It should be obvious that you missed something? LOL
MAYBE THE WORD "SCAT?" SHOULD BE DISCOVERED?
REGARDS MY FRIEND! RON
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Posted: 23-Jan-2014 at 01:35 |
Originally posted by opuslola
An entire series of worthless postings! LOL
I think medenaywe ended it before I found it! Smile!
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Sheesh! Have you heard the expression, "Pot calling the kettle black"? Ron you'd have to be the King of Krap when it comes to worthless postings. Now to address the question, mathematicians, physicists, astronomers and explorers, over many centuries have proven that in fact the earth is NOT flat. The Flat Earth Society is an organisation of crackpots out for a bit of fun.
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Posted: 22-Jan-2014 at 23:51 |
An entire series of worthless postings! LOL
I think medenaywe ended it before I found it! Smile!
Ron
Edited by opuslola - 22-Jan-2014 at 23:53
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Posted: 03-Dec-2013 at 11:50 |
man can not see colors has Daltonism,one that have planar space perception is flat man!Or Scat man!
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Posted: 03-Dec-2013 at 11:39 |
I always thought those folks were spoofing, kind of like the outfit that wants to put pants on animals.
They can't be serious.
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Posted: 03-Dec-2013 at 04:21 |
They can't deny that the sun and moon are spherical or are they flat discs according to them?
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 18:03 |
Originally posted by Baal Melqart
As to seeing either the boat or the shore disappearing in the horizon, this is not enough for FE. They counter it by claiming that the earth doesn't have to be curved for such things to occur because one cannot see the entire world from one fixed point, even if the world is indeed flat. So their claim is basically that even on a flat earth you would see landmasses disappear due to some sort of optical effect. This is perhaps the only reasonable argument I've heard from them.
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Two points here, Baal Melqart, the first being an object disappearing into the distance on the flat would get smaller proportionately, and not disappear from sight from the hull upwards. The second point, and the elephant in the room, is an optical effect is an illusion. Now it is true that potentially everything we think we can see could be an illusion. However this argument somewhat undermines their position, as if they are saying they experience the effect/illusion so readily how did they experience the findings for their belief for a flat earth, without the possibility it might have been compromised in the very same way?
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 16:23 |
'' twas indeed my old friend Eratosthenes who originally dumbfounded the earliest version of the FES. His is quite the story.''Father of geography did it. And no.. unless ya subscribe as a FE'er there is probably no question on the math.
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 16:17 |
IIRC, CV, the Greeks figured this one out mathematically a very long time ago.
Is there some actual question about the math?
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 14:39 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
It doesn't make sense. If the earth really is flat, why would conspirators go to so much effort to trick us into thinking the world is round?
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Panic...universal chaos and fear....dogs fornicating with cats....a 'ghostbuster's defense if ya will.
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 14:36 |
Originally posted by red clay
Originally posted by Nick1986
It doesn't make sense. If the earth really is flat, why would conspirators go to so much effort to trick us into thinking the world is round?
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Why would all the scientists tell us the world is round if it's not? What is the point of concealing the apparent truth?
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 14:33 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
It doesn't make sense. If the earth really is flat, why would conspirators go to so much effort to trick us into thinking the world is round?
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 14:30 |
Excellent Toltec. Alas you and I would still be ignored as the Fe's are probably reluctant to believe in concepts of spatial/angular geometry and trig. Gets back to that intrangence. After all higher math is a mental concept and subsequent construct. True you get demonstrate mathematics but to an FE? doubtful. But it brings to mind red's reference; twas indeed my old friend Eratosthenes who originally dumbfounded the earliest version of the FES. His is quite the story.
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 14:29 |
It doesn't make sense. If the earth really is flat, why would conspirators go to so much effort to trick us into thinking the world is round?
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Posted: 12-Dec-2012 at 14:16 |
Originally posted by Baal Melqart
You mentioned some really good points CV which would be enough to prove that the earth is indeed not flat. But then as you said, they would claim that they were drugged or whatever.
As to seeing either the boat or the shore disappearing in the horizon, this is not enough for FE. They counter it by claiming that the earth doesn't have to be curved for such things to occur because one cannot see the entire world from one fixed point, even if the world is indeed flat. So their claim is basically that even on a flat earth you would see landmasses disappear due to some sort of optical effect. This is perhaps the only reasonable argument I've heard from them.
The funny thing I should also mention is that they believe the entire circle of the earth is surrounded by icebergs so one can't ''fall off'' per se.
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Being a sailor, buoys at sea have heights, their heights are marked on charts and you can verify this personally as you sail past. As you sail towards them the top becomes visible and gradually more and more. You are basically seeing the curvature of the earth, you can then prove this is not an optical illusion as when the sun goes down (the sun has long set when it is still visible on the horizon) with a simple piece of mathematical triangulation, top of the boy, sea level to earth's curvature and work out your position. If no earth curvature the equations fails.
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