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Centrix Vigilis
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Topic: UN Gun Grabbers Hard at Work Against Your Gun Right Posted: 05-Jul-2012 at 13:27 |
Currently 12 Democrats are on line with their Republican colleagues to kill this backdoor assault on the 2nd. Viz an international Treaty -UN. Obama supports it. But that's not new....The addition of growing numbers of democrats against it and him in a variety of social welfare reforms... is.
Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 05-Jul-2012 at 13:33
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Posted: 05-Jul-2012 at 20:57 |
Why don't they just smuggle two thousand guns across the border into Mexico to the drug lords and then they can yell that 'drug lords getting easy guns from the US'...oh wait...nevermind, that's been done already. Just think if the papers heard of that! Oh wait...nevermind.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2012 at 21:07 |
Equally disturbing to the admin's support of this treaty is the unanswered question of why the government has mass ordered tens of millions of rounds of ammunition....that far exceeds the operational rate of training or operational logistics requirements over a six year plan....that are being purchased by the HS/FBI/USFS. All the while promoting the everyday gun owner as a domestic terrorist. But wait...whose in charge. The answer remains clear. Control the ammunition source whatever the caliber and you don't worry about the guns themselves. Iow. it's the idyllic guise of socialist pandering to support eventual totalitarianism through destruction of the constitution's primary mandates. Reread your Alinsky and then reread who his current surrogates are. See the links: And btw..... the US military purchases are not included here. As they are a separate line item in the DOD budget and justifiable given ongoing ops and long term training requirements. The former are not even close to being justifiable.
Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 05-Jul-2012 at 21:16
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Posted: 06-Jul-2012 at 10:47 |
Time to stock up on the 50cal. food!! Better get a few thousand rounds of 20mm while your at it, never know.
SHOTGUNS AND CANNED GOODS!!!!!
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Posted: 06-Jul-2012 at 12:37 |
I'd like to stock up on .223 rounds, but man they have gotten very expensive. Went from $80 a thousand to $275 a thousand since 2008.
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Posted: 06-Jul-2012 at 14:11 |
Yeah, the cost of fun never goes down.
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Posted: 07-Jul-2012 at 09:19 |
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis
Equally disturbing to the admin's support of this treaty is the unanswered question of why the government has mass ordered tens of millions of rounds of ammunition....that far exceeds the operational rate of training or operational logistics requirements over a six year plan....that are being purchased by the HS/FBI/USFS.
The answer remains clear.... |
Do these government agenies even want the ammunition? In the past, the navy was forced to build ships it did not want and all the armed services have been forced to keep redundant bases open. This pressure comes from both liberal and conservative politicians who see government purchasing as a way to help local economies.
If the government does not want the ammunition, an important questions is "Where is it being produced?
There is potential irony on both side fo the political divide: A liberal politican normally opposed to guns ensuring that copious quantities of ammunition are produced in his district, or a consrevative politician, normally suspiscious of the federal government who has a burning desire to arm the federal government- if the ammunition is produced in his distict and by his constituents.
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Posted: 07-Jul-2012 at 11:18 |
It was contracted and is being made in the US. Whether that stimulates the local and or regional economies beggars the issue. The majority of the ammunition is of one caliber and type that has an identifiable and traditional usage. The amount is not necessary to further, as noted, potential and historical operational and or training usage. period. The question then becomes 'what is the traditional and historical operation usage of this type ammunition'. Do the research. I already Know. And no..... it's not the US Military. They have an extremely limited number of 40cal (To include HP ammunition firing pistols) and it is outlawed under the varying conventions. It is what it is. 1.Control and stockpiling of ammunition that is no longer available to the civilian community. 2. A covert mechanism to include at later dates other types. 3. Lib-leftists-socialist political ideologists backdoor gun usage and control (heavily supported and predicted by the Alinsky's and their current surrogate, the Obama administration). Do the research and determine how many 40 Cal's are in operational usage by the aforementioned agencies. Then determine the normal annual weapons qualification and proficiency training requirements that support the same as directed for annual agent proficiency standards. It's all public info. Add 10% which is the norm. And even when ya address the issue of like systems within federal agencies hence ease of logistical support requirements...it comes up weak...especially when ya consider the specific type being ordered. Iow. Your not even freaking close.....if you assume that that amount was required over the next five years. Do these government agencies even want the ammunition? Immaterial. They were directed to order the contracts and purchase by the directors. Who in turn are responsive to the corrupt AG's office or HS. In turn responsive to the socialist anti-gun current administration. It is what it is......I'm not responsible if ya cant see it.
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Posted: 07-Jul-2012 at 11:51 |
It's not just in the US the Democrats are denying people their rights to own guns, I was reading the other day they are doing the same in southern Afghanistan too, and want the locals to be defenceless against the government.
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Posted: 31-Jul-2012 at 13:14 |
Well for now they have beaten back and we still man the barricades.....freaking leftists appeasers or then again it might be the combo of the Banking cartel and Illumanti-NWO types...take yer pick....must be suffering real hemorrhoids over this.....but remember stay vigilant! Anti-gunners not finished with push for global gun control
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Posted: 31-Jul-2012 at 19:42 |
The UN should recognise personal gun ownership as a human right. Law-abiding citizens must defend themselves from robbers and oppressers foreign and domestic as the instruments of the state are unable to do this without becoming totalitarian
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Posted: 01-Aug-2012 at 15:09 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
The UN should recognise personal gun ownership as a human right. Law-abiding citizens must defend themselves from robbers and oppressors foreign and domestic as the instruments of the state are unable to do this without becoming totalitarian
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Ah spoken like a true Brit imperialist-expansionist of the days of Bess 1. It is for this reason alone, if I would have had no other, that you remain my pard. And for the appeasement-gun control crowd...you will be the first in the relocation camps and gulags or crematoriums unless you see thru your self delusion of utopian dysfunctionalism. Bet.
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Posted: 16-Sep-2012 at 01:16 |
More on the incredible buy up of speciality ammo by the DHS. You want to know who are the targets? You....sheeple. ''And for the appeasement-gun control crowd...you will be the first in the relocation camps and gulags or crematoriums unless you see thru your self delusion of utopian dysfunctionalism. Bet. ''
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Posted: 18-Sep-2012 at 16:57 |
Ha. let's just see exactly how long they can keep trying to take our guns before some real shit goes down.
America loves it's guns, and these money-hungry bastards are not going to get them. Simple as that. I'm not even worried. When guns are outlawed, i'll be an outlaw.
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Posted: 10-Jan-2013 at 08:47 |
U pdate: Obama Power Grabs on the Horizon And as noted within it's not just guns.
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Posted: 10-Jan-2013 at 13:07 |
I am a gun owner. Perhaps because I know that there are folks like this author, out there.
I paricularly like the line where he says that Obama is acting like republicans are irrelevant. With one notable exception, in New Jersey, they are. The only Republican who has a ghost of a chance to be re elected is Gov. Christie. He's just as unhappy with the Republicans in Congress as the rest of us.
Now that the election is over, the only thing the reps. can do is revert to their blanket paranoia and fear mongering.
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Posted: 10-Jan-2013 at 13:57 |
Reports of another school shooting in California...
perhaps the right to bare arms should be those arms that were available at the time the constitution was written?
BTW out of mild interest how do we connect gun control with "relocation camps and gulags or crematoriums"?
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Posted: 10-Jan-2013 at 18:23 |
perhaps the right to bare arms should be those arms that were available at the time the constitution was written? BTW out of mild interest how do we connect gun control with "relocation camps and gulags or crematoriums"? 1. Not when the nation is threatened by socialism based on an neo-Alinsky interprtation.. which is in effect communism at best. Neo fascist like pretensions; cloaked in radical, liberal-leftism, at worst. With an ongoing agenda of neutalizing the constitutional priveleges of the mass to ensure power maintenance by the aforementioned. Led by that sychophant of Alinsky and big government... B Obama.
2. Should be obvious. If ya need help read WL. Shirer on the Third Reich and Robert Service on Stalin.
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Posted: 14-Jan-2013 at 13:16 |
Update: Sen, Schumer: Retailers Should Suspend Some Gun Sales, WalMart complies The noose tightens.
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Posted: 14-Jan-2013 at 13:45 |
There are close to 15 million registered firearms in the state of Pennsylvania alone. You can add at least another 15 million unregistered. Even if we were to completely stop making guns now, there would still be 250 million in circulation.
That's too much to grab. The gun culture is too strong to allow confiscation. However what I do see is the outlawing of mags. that hold more than 8-10 rounds, and a real ban on assault weapons.
Times are very different than the 30's, when you could purchase a Thompson SMG 45 cal. at your local hardware. I might add, for the princely sum of 275.00.
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