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    Posted: 12-May-2005 at 10:32

Originally posted by Kenaney

this is very interesting, this script is like the Orkhun script isnt it?

Maybe...

These are some Gktrk writings written with Gktrk scripts...

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Well all runic "alphabets" have some similarity to the Etruscan writing system.

Orkhon




Elder Futhark



Gothic runes




Anglo-Saxon Futhorc





Danish Futhark



Swedish-Norwegian / Short-twig / Rk Runes

Swedish-Norwegian / Short-twig / Rk Runes


Norwegian Futhark

Norwegian Futhark


Gothenburg / Bohusln Runes

Gothenburg / Bohusln Runes


Archaic Etruscan alphabet (7th-5th centuries BC)




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  Quote Kenaney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-May-2005 at 02:57
Originally posted by Oguzoglu

Originally posted by Kenaney

this is very interesting, this script is like the Orkhun script isnt it?

Maybe...

These are some Gktrk writings written with Gktrk scripts...

For me it is the same, i see no difference between those scripts...

But like Phallanx wrote, they are very much similarities with the Orkhun scripts and those from the scripts found in Scandinavia.

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  Quote Phallanx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-May-2005 at 04:43
Originally posted by Kenaney

But like Phallanx wrote, they are very much similarities with the Orkhun scripts and those from the scripts found in Scandinavia.


Actually I said that all Runic scripts are similar to Etruscan.
It's more than obvious that they all are copies of Etruscan with Orkham being the last "copy" to appear approx. during the 8th cent.

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Thanks "Phallanx" it would be interesting to find some etrucan text and to sort of put it into readable latin form. Knowing that all altaic languages have similarities between them, whatever the time. example is the orkun writing above, apart from the fact how turkish has deviated with intruductions of grammer and words from persian and arabic,and how things have changed in the centuries, it isn't that difficult to understand Orkun for a turkish person, as there are many similarities. (once the the text has been put into the latin alphabet of course )
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Originally posted by baracuda

Thanks "Phallanx" it would be interesting to find some etrucan text and to sort of put it into readable latin form. Knowing that all altaic languages have similarities between them, whatever the time. example is the orkun writing above, apart from the fact how turkish has deviated with intruductions of grammer and words from persian and arabic,and how things have changed in the centuries, it isn't that difficult to understand Orkun for a turkish person, as there are many similarities. (once the the text has been put into the latin alphabet of course )

Yeah, you think these two dialects of Turkish are too similar:

1."Turk Oguz begleri budun esidin uzetenri basmasar asrayir telinmeser Turk budun ilinin torunun kimartati"

2."Turk, Oguz beyleri, kavmi, isitin yukarida gok basmasa, asagida yer delinmese Turk milleti ulkeni, tureni kim bozar?"

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1. Direct translation with irrelevent grammer changes..

   Turk - Turk,
   Oguz - Oguz,
   begleri - beyleri,
   esidin - isitin,
   basmasar - basmasa,
   telinmeser - delinmese
   Ilinin - il = state in turkish,Ilinin - "your state" (above translation of millet is wrong)

   that's 8/14 words of the original


2. translation via cutting the words up..

   uzetenri - (uzeri,tanri) - uzerimizde tanri (translation above wrong 'yukarida gok')
   asrayir - asra yir(asagi,yer)
   kimartati - kim artati (kim,?atar...?arkasi)

   thats another 3/14 words of the original

3. we are left with guessing only these words..

     torunun - tor,unun .. sounds like tore (tre)..or torun'un- 'your grandchildren'
     Budur - ? ..Bu means 'this' in modern turkish..

- although no 3. seems wrong....I don't know..

   So "Oguzoglu" after seeing is it that difficult for you to translate???

What are these dialects?

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