Proof Socialism Works

CV responds:

Not at all... for the effects and perks..as one might use the phrase... now enjoyed by the force and it's dependents was a long and lengthy process that is relatively new...and not the historical precedence and actual record for it's first approximate 175 years.... 

Many of the decisions and policies set and or now in place (largely exemplified by desegregation and expansion of roles for minorities and women in the late 1940's thru 90's)...were never directly intended to be examples of a social institutional requirement necessity perse... but rather historically, were identified and approved as a requirement or necessity to support the individual soldier. And to enhance security, training, readiness, individual and unit morale, and medical and living standards of the soldier. Primarily, in an effort to enhance recruiting and retention and preparation for the forces primary mission roles and force readiness. And to reward individuals for faithful and dedicated service. That eventually the collective would receive them jointly was as much a matter of common sense and democratic fairness. It doesn't need to be colored as a social modification of a social organization...that was required because of the socialist political ideologies.

Iow..the socialist mantra was never required to ensure them... they had been or were dictated by the historical interpretation or reinterpretation and developing statute law..judicial decisions...executive orders..and constitutional mandates in the first place. All good democratic actions...even if it took a while...not some socialist, moralist, humanistic agenda based on Marx-Engels-Paine-Ruskin-Temple dogma. 

And lastly the Force is not a commune... it is a restrictive organization with 'separation of classes' in many ways. And has mandatory requirements for entry. Therefor it is not open to a classless society at large..never has been.  And as there is no mandatory service requirement at present and even when there was...the rigid separation of the classes found in it.  Ie. Officier..NCO...Enlisted ranks...certainly after the creation of a regular force and the discontinuance of the militia system, in a large part, and the federal recognition required of the National Guard and Reserves; prohibits it from being a social model of anything.

It is a military organisation based on historical military models not social ones. The one thing that Toltec is correct about however... is that the force was.. ntl... indeed (or became) a de facto role model for selective successful 20th ce. aspects of activism and or recognition of equal rights and employment opportunities. But as noted that's a recent phenom. And can be as I stated above... as a result of the democratic, not a socialistic interpretation, of the ongoing growth of the Republic.